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My E90 M3 weighed 3650 (DCT/sunroof/fully loaded).
This basically weighs the same with heads up display, prob 10x more comfortable & better NVH with a heavier engine as well. That's a step in the right direction
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So with common options (exec pack, comp pack, standard brakes and seats) and AWD it would be around 3850-3900. As long as it's fun to drive, that's all it matters at the end of the day. |
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I may be mistaken but my M3cs is about 3500lbs so I think the GTS has to be less than that...?
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Later Quattro models have ditched the old transmission design where the front axle driveshafts comes out from the front of the gearbox (which requires that the gearbox is on line with the front axle) to the conventional layout with a transfer case at the rear of the gearbox and a driveshaft to the front differential. This way the engine can be brought further back to make the car less nose heavy. However Audi still hangs the engine ahead of the front axle since their base FWD models (on the North-South engine layout cars) still use the old gearbox layout which require that the gearbox is far enough forward to do that. |
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I love all the justifications from what are obviously future buyers about this bloated, heinous monstrosity of a car. Sorry BMW but I'm out. Too bad because I've been in for every generation since the E36. End of the line I'm afraid.
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Weight is not bad at all, BMW has definitively taken a step in the right direction, an improvement in nearly every aspect compared to the previous gen. All the negative internet talk proven to be utter nonsense posted by keyboard warriors that probably had never seen the car in person or test driven it.
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It's clear that reviewers comment overall very positively about the G8X but negatively on the weight, including Joe who is bias in favour of the G8X, hear him at 13:30 and 14:40
The weight of the G8X is all over the place. 3767 lbs with 1/8 tank https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...42&postcount=1 3925 lbs for a manual here https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...3&postcount=33 https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=113 First there was a forummer who stated that most reviewers commented that the G8X felt lighter than the F8X. A second fiorummer (G8X hardcore fan or is it fanboi) above said that some reviewers have commented so. Anyone care to share the links of 2 (well regarded) reviewers who commented so? since the first forummer previously was unable to do so https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=230 edit: I won't be surprised if SYT_Shadow has already weighed the G8X as I recall he bought scales to weigh it.
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But in the first BMW M tech video they compared the weight of a F82 M4 with DCT and options with a lightweight version of the G82 M4 (base model with 6MT). The F82 weighed in at 1640kg The G82 weighed in at 1674kg The 1660kg weight of the car in this thread compares very well with what BMW showed in that video. The car JA drove was a AT which adds 25kg, so at least 1700kg for his test car. Not sure if he can realistically "feel" those extra 60+kg over a F82 or not... |
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This is like a very smokey peetie whisky, you either like it or hate it. Just not a nice looking car. As Evolve said its less repulsive in person, but its still repulsive. |
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Edit: Yes, at least 1700 kg but 60+kg is an assumption because you did not take into account "at least"; at least 1700 kg can mean 1800 kg.
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Professional magazines have already weighed the G8x and the actual weight is very close to the claimed figures and far from some speculation (4000lbs, +200kgs over the F8x and so on).
As someone already said, the car feels heavier than its predecessor because of the longer wheelbase, even AMS.de said that "it would be no different with 60kg less." |
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The OP car is a 6MT base car with carbon buckets and steel brakes. Weighed with 1/2 tank at 1660kg Add 30kg of fuel for full tank ≈ 1690kg Lightweight 6MT G82 in BMW video with full tank of fuel and (most likely) CCB weighs in at 1674kg Difference between OP car (at full tank) and lightweight BMW video spec is ≈ 16kg That correlates pretty well with weight saving of CCB over steel brakes plus a few minor options probably not on the G82 in the BMW video. |
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The OP car we know has the Executive pack and full leather (textile/cloth is not an option however, so full leather doesn't make a lot of difference). CCB requires the 19/20" wheel combo so that is also assumed to be equal. In reality, assuming the G82 from the video has no weight adding options, and going by what the OP states for his car, the difference between the two cars (apart from CCB) is the Executive package and extended leather. This package on the G82 doesn't really have many items that add a lot of weight: https://www.bmwusa.com/build-your-ow...0y9hwj/options I would definitely not call it a "loaded car" with just the Executive package... |
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I went stick, no sunroof, no Ex pack, about as light as it gets. But also because I don't think 500hp is needed to enjoy the car. I'll spend most of my time on back road, where a stick and less power mean more enjoyment.
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I have also stated that the most drivers said that G8X has better steering (I have also provided videos and links for that), and some of them even think that the car feels lighter, and for example, our respected poster here on the forum (and his college), from the Evolve Automotive have said that the car feels almost as nimble and agile as M2. They didn't even bother to compare it to F8X M3 in this respect, and they own and track/drag their M2, M3 and M5 cars and have long term experience that most of the reviewers don't have. They even stated that they are not paid by the BMW for good reviews (like you have implied for some testers), and that they paid for every car they own! Objectively, the car is performance monster! In can go from 100-200 km/h in 7,7 sec! Faster than the new RS6/7 and very close to the E63S! It is faster on the damp surface than the RS5 from a dig in the 1/4 mile race, destroying the C63S on the roll, and it is faster than many super sports cars on very technical track: View post on imgur.com And not only that the M4 was slower on that particular track by just more than 0,5 sec than the new Carrera 2S (AWD or CS will probably be faster on that track), it is said by all race drivers (that I have heard), that the car is extremely engaging and fun to drive! And despite the fact that the people from the Italian magazine have tested the F80 M3 and the G82 M4 under the same conditions (similarly spected cars), and the difference was about 64 kg, you are still trying to find some additional lb/kg because in your mind you have decided not to like the car! I have no problem with that, but I know that you and I can't have meaningful discussion on this particular subject. We can talk about birds, planes etc. but I will not respond to you on this theme any more |
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Like the GTR the engine will be extremely tunable, the s58 is a gem. 9.3:1 compression requires bigger stock turbos so tune only 660whp on ethanol mix. That's rowdy. Add awd and it will put down solid numbers. The ease at which you can make power and the smoother ramp of torque will hide its weight. |
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