[Hegge]

Originally Posted by M3 2ENVY

Lol when they make limited edition M cars and the 3rd ever CSL it's pretty much a given it will

M4 GTS, M4 CS, and M3 CS have all gone down in value. People have been decreasing their prices on M2 CS on Autotrader.

[AbdullahMDM]

Originally Posted by M3 2ENVY

Considering it will only go up in value, definitely not a waste of money

Originally Posted by M3 2ENVY

Considering it will only go up in value, definitely not a waste of money

Not if they release something more exclusive

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by forza1976

However, I'm not predicting anything, just sharing an opinion on spending $140k+ on a BMW 4 series...

It's going to depreciate. I'm buying one cause I'm a BMW fanboy, but I called all around my area today. Easy to find allocations with only $10k markup and almost all are available as dealers are just trying to markup insanely just to see if people will bite.

The economy is turning, even M5 CSs are correcting. Don't buy BMWs as investments unless you want to hold for 20+ years.

[dazzapb]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

It's going to depreciate. I'm buying one cause I'm a BMW fanboy, but I called all around my area today. Easy to find allocations with only $10k markup and almost all are available as dealers are just trying to markup insanely just to see if people will bite.

The economy is turning, even M5 CSs are correcting. Don't buy BMWs as investments unless you want to hold for 20+ years.

Fair play I wish I could get one. Enjoy!

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by dazzapb

Fair play I wish I could get one. Enjoy!

It's not good for a specific car's long term car value when every dealer wants $50k+ ADM to see if some idiot will bite, and doing that into a recession.

[MassComp]

One would think at this price point the M4 CSL would have full carbon fiber for the outside bits (side skirts, side vents, rear corners).....

[///M ARMY]

Didn't really expect that much of a difference

[emtwo]

Originally Posted by M3 2ENVY

Yea they dropped the ball with the GTS, had its issues when it came out. But we shall see with this one

Originally Posted by M3 2ENVY

Yea they dropped the ball with the GTS, had its issues when it came out. But we shall see with this one

GTS and CS both didn't go up in value.

In fact, was the E46 the only special edition M car that retained some of its value?

[kyleb350]

Originally Posted by emtwo

GTS and CS both didn't go up in value.

In fact, was the E46 the only special edition M car that retained some of its value?

You can argue if you play the long game, it could potentially, like the E30.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by RyanBMW

No anniversary emblem? That's strange!

I was just about to type the same thing ~

[Jimjamz]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

It's going to depreciate. I'm buying one cause I'm a BMW fanboy, but I called all around my area today. Easy to find allocations with only $10k markup and almost all are available as dealers are just trying to markup insanely just to see if people will bite.

The economy is turning, even M5 CSs are correcting. Don't buy BMWs as investments unless you want to hold for 20+ years.

I'm starting with I'm not a registered financial advisor, but…

Regardless of whether this or other M's appreciate, there are far better investments to park your money in over the longer term. Like 99.9999% of all cars it's a non-income earning object. Get one of these for the love of history, engineering and how it makes you feel when you drive it or look at it, not to make money.

[Dr.Deep]

Originally Posted by Frosty

[COLOR="SeaGreen"]I was just about to type the same thing ~[/COLOR]

You can also opt for the normal ones as you can do with all other BMWs currently if you don't like the 50 Jahre ones

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by Dr.Deep

You can also opt for the normal ones as you can do with all other BMWs currently if you don't like the 50 Jahre ones

Not in the US you can't.

[Dr.Deep]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

Not in the US you can't.

Ohh that is strange indeed…

But this car is in the UK and he was wondering why there are the normal ones

[Professor///M]

Everyone got excited about this, and it's exactly what we all expected. A slightly lighter M4 with a power boost. Have we not been down this road with BMW lately? Here's something a little better than last time. And it's exclusive so we'll charge double.

It is not an investment, no car is. It's an emotional purchase. You will need to get over the emotions of:
- Yes, you can buy 2 M4s for the same price
- Yes, you can modify an M3 or M4 to be faster, handle better, and sexier than this for less money
- Yes, you can buy it if you really want a 'one of a kind', with the knowledge that the next generation M will dethrone it.


This will be a car that you will see in some garage. You're not going to see it on the road, probably not going to see it on the track.


I still can't get past the fact that it doesn't seem to follow the same hood lines as the M3 & M4. I'm trying to see whether it's an optical illusion, or whether they really did bring those divots in the hood closer to the windshield.

[11LMBiSTT]

Originally Posted by JSTDR1V

I still can't get past the fact that it doesn't seem to follow the same hood lines as the M3 & M4. I'm trying to see whether it's an optical illusion, or whether they really did bring those divots in the hood closer to the windshield.

It's not an optical illusion. They changed the design of the hood. I'm not quite sure it looks better.

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by JSTDR1V

This will be a car that you will see in some garage. You're not going to see it on the road, probably not going to see it on the track.

Watch me

I agree most will keep it locked in the garage and take some Sunday rides but you would be surprised how many GT3s get used on the track 2-3 years and traded for new ones and the cycle is repeated and has been going for many years.

[stevehifi]

I think you have to look at all the mistakes BMW made with the M4 GTS and realize that this is definitely a step in the right direction for an extreme road worthy M car.

They got rid of the roll cage, crazy aero, and stiff suspension and made it a road racer first, and occasional track car second.

Just like a GT Porsche, you get in and go fast.. no ride height to adjust, no need to crawl under the car and adjust shocks and a proper seat of buckets to hold you in.

Add a tune on this thing and its going to insane.

[PNWM3]

Originally Posted by M3 2ENVY

Considering it will only go up in value, definitely not a waste of money

Just like the GTS where they made even less of them?!?

[MD707]

I've driven BMWs for 18 years. I am about as loyal to the brand as it's possible to be. It's been getting worse for years but I've tried to see the positives. But this is frickin hideous.

It seems the relentless pursuit of attention seeking Instagrammers and 'HIGUYS' content creators has destroyed all sense of what this used to be about. If this is what profit now looks like for manufacturers, it's a sad day indeed.

It's a dumpster fire of poor taste. The E46 CSL oozes quiet confidence, and rapid heart beats from those who know what it is. Just how it should be. This is Tiktok shite for children.



I'm going across to Stuttgart.

[Custom Install]

Originally Posted by 11LMBiSTT

It's not an optical illusion. They changed the design of the hood. I'm not quite sure it looks better.

I think it's changed for the sake of change, IMO the normal hood in carbon would have been more aggressive. If the exposed weave had came down nearer the front and maintained the straight lines I'd 100% say it would be more suited.

[Custom Install]

Originally Posted by G21-M340i

I've driven BMWs for 18 years. I am about as loyal to the brand as it's possible to be. It's been getting worse for years but I've tried to see the positives. But this is frickin hideous.

It seems the relentless pursuit of attention seeking Instagrammers and 'HIGUYS' content creators has destroyed all sense of what this used to be about. If this is what profit now looks like for manufacturers, it's a sad day indeed.

It's a dumpster fire of poor taste. The E46 CSL oozes quiet confidence, and rapid heart beats from those who know what it is. Just how it should be. This is Tiktok shite for children.



I'm going across to Stuttgart.

Where they've been, and where their going.