[M4ord]

So first off, Wow, what an engine the S58 is. Second, I have had the privilege of living in Germany for 7 years while in the military, and I want to make the readers aware of a few things. First, the Autobahn is constructed to be almost 6 feet thick, while most other roads around the world are 3 feet or less. Drainage is excellent, turns are designed for 120+ MPH speeds, and preventive maintenance is done on a time schedule, not because the road has deteriorated to a certain point. The most important aspect, in my opinion, is that German drivers stay to the right unless they pass, all of them! It's not like the other places I have driven, including Europe, where people will cruise below the speed limit in the left lane. Imagine you are a young driver in Germany, spending thousands of Euros on getting your license. If your instructor does not see you stay in the right lane, you will fail the test and have to spend more money to acquire one. They treat it that seriously. Now with all that being said, I agree with all the points in this thread. Tire blowout, operating the car outside the engineering design limits, and lastly, the driver is doing excessive speeds with one hand (a couple fingers) on the wheel. The driver is adding reaction time if they have to make a corrective movement at 197 MPH. If I was the friend filming in the back of the car, I would be sick with anxiety, both for not having control and watching someone else have my life in their one hand.

[ChargerHellcat]

Originally Posted by TheStanman

There are definitely worse cars to do 200mph in (Plaid, Hellcat, etc.), but also ones that are much better.

I think biggest issue is the lack of aero. The reason this car can hit 200mph is there's not much downforce. With significant downforce, you would need more power.

IME high-speed runs (140+) feel much safer and controlled in cars with cars with aero. My F80 easily had power to reach 155mph but felt pretty sketchy. I imagine it's even sketchier at 200.

You do realize the hellcat top speed is actually 200? So I'm not quite sure how the car that is built to hit that speed in straight line is not as safe as the M3. Having own both. The hellcat definitely feels just as stable as the M3 at these higher speeds. Granted my M3 is governed to 157.

I will say this. Most people that have not gone these higher speed will scream madness. If you have driven at higher speeds. These cars are amazing at these speeds. With that said. I have always driven fast, however once you start pushing above 185, it's even next level fast. I have hit my governor almost 10 times already it really isn't anything to go crazy over about. The 7-8 times where I went above 185 on my hellcat, It's a mind numbing experience, with the hellcat supercharger whine and the v8.

[perryreid90]

Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

Not at all. I'm saying I'd read that the transmission either couldn't handle the power, or is limited by BMW to keep it from overheating and eating itself. Looking for the reference, now.

they only nanny/govern it because of regulations, the powertrain (S58 & ZF8) and suspension of this car can handle 200mph without a hiccup.

[Limegrntaln]

Originally Posted by ChargerHellcat

You do realize the hellcat top speed is actually 200? So I'm not quite sure how the car that is built to hit that speed in straight line is not as safe as the M3. Having own both. The hellcat definitely feels just as stable as the M3 at these higher speeds. Granted my M3 is governed to 157.

I will say this. Most people that have not gone these higher speed will scream madness. If you have driven at higher speeds. These cars are amazing at these speeds. With that said. I have always driven fast, however once you start pushing above 185, it's even next level fast. I have hit my governor almost 10 times already it really isn't anything to go crazy over about. The 7-8 times where I went above 185 on my hellcat, It's a mind numbing experience, with the hellcat supercharger whine and the v8.

I have the M Drivers Package on my car, and I can tell you it feels the same at 172 as it does at 157. It's solid.

The 157 is Speedo error as the limit is set to (250km/h) or 155.343mph.

I think the theoretical M Drivers Package limit, is supposed to be (295km/h) 183.305mph, but there are some videos of cars in Germany going as high as 193. The limit is based on km/h, though, which is why the MPH isn't an even, rounded number.

[ChargerHellcat]

Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

I have the M Drivers Package on my car, and I can tell you it feels the same at 172 as it does at 157. It's solid.

The 157 is Speedo error as the limit is set to (250km/h) or 155.343mph.

I think the theoretical M Drivers Package limit, is supposed to be (295km/h) 183.305mph, but there are some videos of cars in Germany going as high as 193. The limit is based on km/h, though, which is why the MPH isn't an even, rounded number.

My car goes up to 159. However, my gps states on my uniden R7 states it's 157. I don't doubt these cars feel just fine at these speeds. I just love hearing people freaking out about these speeds about how the car is going to blow up and ect. I was waiting to get this tune to see what it feels like 180-190. I have no desire to do 200 ever again. It was a bucket list thing. I'm good lol.

[BMthusiast]

Has anyone here driven both the F06 M6 and G80 M3? I had the F06 in Germany for a day and I was astonished as to how smoothly it flew at insanely high speed on the Autobahn. The G80 in this video looks just as smooth and capable. Super impressive vehicle! In the F80 my heart starts to drop at 140-150 mph.

[TractionControlDelete]

Originally Posted by ChargerHellcat

My car goes up to 159. However, my gps states on my uniden R7 states it's 157. I don't doubt these cars feel just fine at these speeds. I just love hearing people freaking out about these speeds about how the car is going to blow up and ect. I was waiting to get this tune to see what it feels like 180-190. I have no desire to do 200 ever again. It was a bucket list thing. I'm good lol.

I really think it depends on what you're used to, like you said. Anyone who has ridden 1000cc+ sport bikes wouldn't look at these speeds as particularly high because 180 happens in less than 15 seconds (and that's from a standstill mind you)… and 190+ can happen regularly. It sincerely makes 160 seem pretty ordinary (same applies to 10 second 1/4 mile times and 3 second 0-60s). But I do get where folks are coming from though because it's always important to stay within the car's tolerances especially at these speeds (admittedly PS4S tires are Y rated so they are good for 186+)

It's all relative https://motostatz.com/19bmw-s1000rr-acceleration/

[BIGW0RM]

145MPH scares the shit out of me. 197 is INSANE! That dude is crazy!

[edwinm3]

Originally Posted by ChargerHellcat

You do realize the hellcat top speed is actually 200? So I'm not quite sure how the car that is built to hit that speed in straight line is not as safe as the M3. Having own both. The hellcat definitely feels just as stable as the M3 at these higher speeds. Granted my M3 is governed to 157.

I will say this. Most people that have not gone these higher speed will scream madness. If you have driven at higher speeds. These cars are amazing at these speeds. With that said. I have always driven fast, however once you start pushing above 185, it's even next level fast. I have hit my governor almost 10 times already it really isn't anything to go crazy over about. The 7-8 times where I went above 185 on my hellcat, It's a mind numbing experience, with the hellcat supercharger whine and the v8.

I hope you love and think about your family when you're out doing this.

[Mandingo9]

Originally Posted by edwinm3

I hope you love and think about your family when you're out doing this.

I hope he's thinking more about not crashing.

[ChargerHellcat]

Originally Posted by edwinm3

I hope you love and think about your family when you're out doing this.

Comments like that is what's comical. I can tell you never travel at these speeds. I'm more concern with idiots who when they drive, they don't drive. They're worrying about their phones, radio or what's on their cup holders, makeup. Everything else that's is not driving.

[geko29]

Originally Posted by M4ord

If I was the friend filming in the back of the car, I would be sick with anxiety, both for not having control and watching someone else have my life in their one hand.

There was no one in the back seat. Video was done with a POV camera.