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Like the M340i, the RS5 driving experience is optimized much more for daily driving pleasure and "medium" spirited driving than the M4 is. The car takes off from stoplights exceptionally well. It's effortless; no need for launch mode to extract excellent performance. The steering is pleasantly light and comfortable and also conveys a feeling of effortlessness. While the M4 will absolutely take you around corners faster and with more chassis composure, the RS5 is a bit more pleasant to point when you're going 6/10ths. The M4 has heavier steering even on Comfort, and in comparison to the Audi, is more of a chore to steer at low speeds. Driving M3/4s for years, many times I've experienced the relief of taking a few days off from the high-strung M and driving a comfy, torquey, easy-to-operate standard 3/4-series loaner for a couple of days while my car's in for service. I don't think I'd experience that with the also comfy, also torquey, also easy-to-operate RS5. On the other hand, the Audi gives up a meaningful amount of measurable performance. It doesn't quite have the front end grip, the high-end power, and the superb chassis stability of the G8x. Its 'excitement peaks' are lower than the M's. There's less to learn and master since it's designed to make its party tricks super accessible to you for everyday use. Ultimately, the G8x is a more special car - it rarely takes more than 3 days for me to want to give back the loaner and get back in the M. Drive both and really consider what you truly want out of your next car. |
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I really like how you described your RS5 driving experience, you seem to have a similar vision and experience of day to day driving to mine. I did test drive an RS5 once and had the same feeling about it. Wondering if you have experience driving a C63/S ? Asking because my M3 order feels like it's going to not go trough with no allocation and I have the opportunity to a 2020 used GLC63S (suv format in Canada) or maybe a C63S that I could lease or buy while waiting for the LCI M3. I have owned my M2 for nearly 33 months and tracked it 5+ times every summer wich as always been a blast but I stored it every winter and did not particularly enjoy using it on the street because of the crashy suspension, I like it when I push it to 8-9/10ths on track but find it a bit boring on the street and I don't have the roads around here to push it's handling. I want a car I will enjoy everyday summer and winter and that I can still take to the track to have some fun even if I have to do some concession on track performance.
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I went from an F80 to F87 comp to Model Y but trying to determine if I should get another m2 or new M3 for occasional all year driving. |
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Now the throw is nearly identical to my S2000, but with softer pedal action.
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The C63 S doesn’t let you forget that it’s well over 4,000 pounds. In comparison to the F80, the car does not inspire confidence in corners and, with its slower reflexes and softer handling characteristics, it makes it clear that the backroads aren’t where the car is happiest by any means. In this respect, the delta between the C63 S and G8x is vast. At this point, it’s a dated product and not a credible performance alternative to the new M cars. I rate the RS5 ahead of it. |
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05-28-2021, 06:15 AM | #60 | ||
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- Great engine, beautiful power dilevery - Intoxicating sound, you always want to push the pedal - Very emotional transmission - More rattles, clunks and squeeks than my 100k mile 2014 Q5 - Inconsistent quality, come buttons and material feel space grade and other cheaper than a Kia - Very comfortable at cruising the highway, falls apart on twisty broken roads. I used the same roads I had test driven the G82 M4 and that thing felt rock solid and very confidence inpriring in comparison so the AMG product. I guess my first idea was the best and I will be sticking to my G80 order, I stopped by the dealer and after a long explanation of all the ordering process and showing me all emails they had with production planners I am confident I will get my car in a reasonable timeframe. BMW really set the bar high with this one, I have a hard time imagining myself rowing my own gears locked in those bucket seats everywhere around town discovering all the roads once again. Can't wait !!
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Most of the narrative about this car has been about it's looks and most recently about positive reviews. It's seems nobody is too concerned about it's size, weight, or the fact that a BMW M3 Competition cannot be spec'd with a manual or dual clutch transmission. Yes yes I know the ZF is "brilliant". Strange how it wasn't so brilliant in the M5, X3M, or M340i I drove. I'm sure it's different here with netter "tuning".
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I just drove the car this weekend for the second or third time since delivery. I have not performed the break-in service just yet. What an enjoyable experience. Goal in August is to rack on the mileage. I added bms 13/15 front and rear spacers. Stance is much more pronounced now and the car looks like it squats. I will however will have to ppf the lower panels, I can hear the rocks being thrown on the lower side skirts. More pics to come. |
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