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Lots of great points on both sides. I'm sure if you headed over to Rennlist, they'd think us ///M fans were crazy for even trying to compare the two machines. That said, most of us who can afford a full MSRP G8x at the moment can probably find a few extra hundred dollars a month lying around (or break the cardinal rule of leasing and drop a $10K down payment to lower the adjusted cap cost). I concur with other posters who said it's in bad taste to refer to those who budget (regardless of AGI).
For most people, rich or poor, a house and car are the two largest purchases they will ever make. Save perhaps investing in their own business. So there's nothing wrong with saying, hey the M3 does what I need it to do and costs less. Sure there are those out their with unlimited budgets, large inheritances/trust funds, rich/old spouses or who are just at a point in life where they can pay cash for a 992 (read: money is no object), but for the rest of the tax paying world, that's usually not the case. Can I afford the 992 Targa I want? Sure. Does it make sense being 6'5'' with the build of a blob fish and a 4 month old? Maybe not so much. So you have to do the comparison based on your individual situation. The M3 isn't much of an upgrade in terms of daily comfort and usability for me, but for my wife, who's a significantly smaller human being, both cars make sense both from a daily driving perspective and financially. If she's happier in a 992 then the price difference is negligible as her happiness is worth it. If she's not, then it's a waste cause she drives less than 7500 miles a year on average and while it's fun to drive in FL, it's not scenic by any means like say California. All this is to say, I like these kinds of comparisons, because it helps those of us blessed enough to even have the first world problem of deciding between a G8X and a 992 have some reasonable juxtaposition to go by/buy.
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Emotionally. I never owned a car longer than 4 years before I bought it. . I've had it since 2010, LOL. It's so fucking fast and never breaks down. I feel if I sell it, I need a car that will be as fast and reliable. They are also rare which I like as well. I'm kicking around an RS6 so maybe after I get that and do work on that, Then I can get rid of it. If Dogecoin goes to 2 bucks, then I will just add the Porsche to my stable.
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Not everyone who goes with the $85k or so M3/4 Comp can't afford a Porsche--even at $135k. If you live in the North--like Colorado, the car will sit in the garage for a long time each year. You need a good SUV--not just for the weather, but for all that it offers in capacity. Justifying an $85k car that will also sit in the garage and offers 95% of what the Porsche does makes sense. As to the C8, add $35,000 to MSP if you can find one. The C8 has been compared against the 992 S in several magazines, and beats it. I don't like the styling--front too short compared to rear so they had a place to stow the top or 2 sets of clubs. At $80-85k, it is a fantastic value; at $125k, it's not--and I've driven Vettes for the past 15 years. Then there is my 7000' altitude. The M4 Twin Turbo that puts out ~ 550 to the crank loses nothing in power. The 495hp Vette loses 100+ hp. Here, the Vette loses every time. And the rear engined, lighter 992 is only marginally (.2-3 in 1/4 mile--losing half of its 0-60 advantage) quicker. All considerations for me. I've driven Porsches from 993s to 992 GT3s. Terrific cars all. Just not for me. We also have, as original owners, a completely unmodified 1987 Buick Regal Grand National. So, tastes vary--and money isn't always the key criterion.
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**Checks ability to secure a 911 allocation and sees ridiculously long waiting period with lists 10 deep at every dealership compared to the G8X.** Yeah, there is a reason Porsche sells them like hot cakes and they are year over year the most reliable/successful/best value long term sports car out there. P.S. this was not directed at you, just an attempt at sarcasm that was aimed at the people who say the above quote.
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Even without the current shortage, Porsche sells a ton of them (and rarely with the ridiculous discounts you see on the M8/M5/M3CS etc) and they all hold their value long term over almost any other sports car. But, yeah you are spot on, I should have mentioned the current supply chain issues.
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