FemtoEVO ECU Unlock experience

NickPJT · 11-04-2022, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by destoyan

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Originally Posted by redfurym3

I was hoping so, but BM3 doesn't have an option for this. Hopefully in the future they'll add it.

Wait what .... protuningfreaks state on their website (licence description) that you can remove the top speed limiter.

Lol i accidentally quoted the speed limiter one as well

Yes you can remove it and I have it off as well.

I was talking about them not having a CSL map yet.

Limegrntaln · 11-04-2022, 03:31 PM

Euro Performance Center is hand carrying DMEs to Finland. They even have a calendar on their website, of the trips they're making. The November trip is scheduled for 11/14.

https://europerformancecenter.com/

TacoJova · 11-07-2022, 03:07 PM

What's the deal with the remote start fix? Is that something they were just now able to fix or do you have to pay extra for it?

NickPJT · 11-07-2022, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TacoJova

What's the deal with the remote start fix? Is that something they were just now able to fix or do you have to pay extra for it?

It's an additional 100 dollars I believe

It makes it so remote start still works.

X5ALIVE · 11-08-2022, 10:32 AM

Apologies if this has been asked before but I assume you can buy a new ECU and have your ECU data cloned to it and unlocked by Femto?

If so, can anyone comment on if this would be the correct part?

12-14-5-A24-A46

https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...w2LWdhcw%3D%3D

Seems to me like a safer route. Sure, you spend a 2K more for the re-assurance, but you seemingly could also pop the original back in to for service, etc, right?

Froz3n_M · 11-08-2022, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by X5ALIVE

Apologies if this has been asked before but I assume you can buy a new ECU and have your ECU data cloned to it and unlocked by Femto?

If so, can anyone comment on if this would be the correct part?

12-14-5-A24-A46

https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...w2LWdhcw%3D%3D

Seems to me like a safer route. Sure, you spend a 2K more for the re-assurance, but you seemingly could also pop the original back in to for service, etc, right?

I don't think this is the only computer which can be tracked or investigated. There are so many other control modules and accessible systems which can give it away (if BMW decides to dig) that IMO you're spending a lot of money for a false sense of security. If you tune and it breaks, you pay to play, no warranty.

Impulse20098 · 11-08-2022, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Froz3n_M

I don't think this is the only computer which can be tracked or investigated. There are so many other control modules and accessible systems which can give it away (if BMW decides to dig) that IMO you're spending a lot of money for a false sense of security. If you tune and it breaks, you pay to play, no warranty.

That is correct. Not the only computer recording data in the car. Everyone always concerned about the warranty but then wants to tune the cars lol. If you want warranty leave it stock. Don't know why this always comes up every other thread. It is pretty simple lol

X5ALIVE · 11-08-2022, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Impulse20098

That is correct. Not the only computer recording data in the car. Everyone always concerned about the warranty but then wants to tune the cars lol. If you want warranty leave it stock. Don't know why this always comes up every other thread. It is pretty simple lol

Fair enough! Thanks!

Froz3n_M · 11-08-2022, 04:02 PM

Buy one G8x for daily and a g8x for play. Problem solved...

X5ALIVE · 11-09-2022, 08:31 AM

Realistically, I think I'd be most worried about updates (OTA or Dealership) overwriting or somehow affecting the tune.

Do we know if that's even a thing? And, if so, is it a simple as just re-flashing, or must we unlock again?

destoyan · 11-09-2022, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by X5ALIVE

Realistically, I think I'd be most worried about updates (OTA or Dealership) overwriting or somehow affecting the tune.

Do we know if that's even a thing? And, if so, is it a simple as just re-flashing, or must we unlock again?

As fat as I know it must be unlocked again. It won't be the full price I would suggest, but still ...

This is why one always put a big Sticker in the car (when at dealership) "DO NOT UPDATE ANYTHING!!!"

markoz28 · 11-09-2022, 08:55 AM

I have a BM3 tune on my daily 2017 340i. Every time its been to the dealer I stress, "DO NOT UPDATE ECU".

belittle · 11-09-2022, 09:39 PM

Less then 2 weeks total for me on shipping and return (did it myself). Took me an extra day since I missed the international wire cut off. Almost worth it for the catless light off and exhaust open all the time in sport.

Thought it was funny on the first flash. Lots of time and money for a 7second flash!

91 octane is fun, E50 will be beast

Indo Rider · 11-09-2022, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by belittle

Less then 2 weeks total for me on shipping and return (did it myself). Took me an extra oday since I missed the international wire cut off. Almost worth it for the catless light off and exhaust open all the time in sport.

Thought it was funny on the first flash. Lots of time and money for a 7second flash!

91 octane is fun, E50 will be beast

So who's OTS map is this that you loaded? What are the options for someone who wants to flash it themselves after femto unlocks? BM3, MHD, others?

destoyan · 11-10-2022, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Indo Rider

So who's OTS map is this that you loaded? What are the options for someone who wants to flash it themselves after femto unlocks? BM3, MHD, others?

ECUTek is getting more and more popular.
Most f not all tuned GTRs are using ECUTek.

I personally went with MHD.
1. My tuner (pureboost) works with MHD
2. For ca. 500 USD you get the Super licence with 8 OTS maps included. (in my case a friend of mine is reseller and paid 450).

For the US market is BM3 more popular and I think is also cheaper, if you purchase it in the US.

One start with OTS map and very soon you are talking with some tuner for custom maps, where you can get the real potential, because the OTS maps are designed to work on different cars and are more conservative.

sk3let0nz · 11-11-2022, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by destoyan

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Originally Posted by Indo Rider

So who's OTS map is this that you loaded? What are the options for someone who wants to flash it themselves after femto unlocks? BM3, MHD, others?

ECUTek is getting more and more popular.
Most f not all tuned GTRs are using ECUTek.

I personally went with MHD.
1. My tuner (pureboost) works with MHD
2. For ca. 500 USD you get the Super licence with 8 OTS maps included. (in my case a friend of mine is reseller and paid 450).

For the US market is BM3 more popular and I think is also cheaper, if you purchase it in the US.

One start with OTS map and very soon you are talking with some tuner for custom maps, where you can get the real potential, because the OTS maps are designed to work on different cars and are more conservative.

Ecutek I also believe you need a cloned ECU for that

Alexp19 · 11-23-2022, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

Euro Performance Center is hand carrying DMEs to Finland. They even have a calendar on their website, of the trips they're making. The November trip is scheduled for 11/14.

https://europerformancecenter.com/

Where can I find this calendar? Do you happen to know the next departure date?

Limegrntaln · 11-23-2022, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Alexp19

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Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

Euro Performance Center is hand carrying DMEs to Finland. They even have a calendar on their website, of the trips they're making. The November trip is scheduled for 11/14.

https://europerformancecenter.com/

Where can I find this calendar? Do you happen to know the next departure date?

Looks like they only have one date up, right now.

https://europerformancecenter.com/pr...-for-2020-bmws

czzisaman · 11-24-2022, 12:51 PM

Hi, wonder if anyone needs tunable ECU for clone? I'm a supra owner and just found 2 that are from tunable S58s, VIN checked by Femto already:

5YMTS0C0XLLA57631
WBSUJ0103LLS68288

These 2 will work for AT M3/M4s, lemme know.

ig:czzisaman

biomedic6288 · 12-15-2022, 09:23 AM

Did you have to get/pay for a Carnet in order to ship it?

yousefnjr · 12-15-2022, 10:56 AM

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Did you have to get/pay for a Carnet in order to ship it?

They’re specific in their shipping instructions, and will tell you to use DHL Express as a ‘Temporary Export’ only. I just sent mine out to them last Friday. It was delivered to them on Tuesday, and is currently on its way home right now. I would recommend doing as they say. No time stuck in customs and I don’t recall any duty fees etc

ZheroG80 · 12-19-2022, 09:42 AM

Not trying to thread jack just asking for a possible answer or for someone to tell me I am an idiot for trying this lol. Because if not I am just sending it to Femto

I have been working with BMW in my town and we have been talking about taking a virgin X3M ecu and mating it to my 22 M3. The only question is would mating it upload the new BTLDR software as this is not technically cloning my old ECU its mating it to my car. The Service Manager does not know the answer to that but doesn't want to contact tech support to ask them for obvious reasons haha.

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X5ALIVE Professional Lurker 59 Rep 80 Posts Drives: 2023 M3Cx Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: AZ iTrader: (0)	Apologies if this has been asked before but I assume you can buy a new ECU and have your ECU data cloned to it and unlocked by Femto? If so, can anyone comment on if this would be the correct part? 12-14-5-A24-A46 https://www.getbmwparts.com/oem-part...w2LWdhcw%3D%3D Seems to me like a safer route. Sure, you spend a 2K more for the re-assurance, but you seemingly could also pop the original back in to for service, etc, right?
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X5ALIVE Professional Lurker 59 Rep 80 Posts Drives: 2023 M3Cx Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: AZ iTrader: (0)	Realistically, I think I'd be most worried about updates (OTA or Dealership) overwriting or somehow affecting the tune. Do we know if that's even a thing? And, if so, is it a simple as just re-flashing, or must we unlock again?
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markoz28 First Lieutenant 220 Rep 369 Posts Drives: BMW 2017 340i, BMW 2020 M340i, Join Date: May 2021 Location: South TX iTrader: (1)	I have a BM3 tune on my daily 2017 340i. Every time its been to the dealer I stress, "DO NOT UPDATE ECU".
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belittle Private 56 Rep 86 Posts Drives: 2016 BMW M4 Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: AZ iTrader: (0)	Less then 2 weeks total for me on shipping and return (did it myself). Took me an extra day since I missed the international wire cut off. Almost worth it for the catless light off and exhaust open all the time in sport. Thought it was funny on the first flash. Lots of time and money for a 7second flash! 91 octane is fun, E50 will be beast Attached Images __________________ ~2022 M4 Comp Xdrive - Bm3, KW V3s, Downpipes, E50 Custom Tune Last edited by belittle; 11-09-2022 at 09:49 PM..
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czzisaman Registered 2 Rep 2 Posts Drives: Supra Join Date: Nov 2022 Location: MA iTrader: (0)	Hi, wonder if anyone needs tunable ECU for clone? I'm a supra owner and just found 2 that are from tunable S58s, VIN checked by Femto already: 5YMTS0C0XLLA57631 WBSUJ0103LLS68288 These 2 will work for AT M3/M4s, lemme know. ig:czzisaman
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ZheroG80 Private First Class 217 Rep 191 Posts Drives: 2022 BMW M3 Comp XDRIVE Join Date: Sep 2022 Location: NC iTrader: (0)	Not trying to thread jack just asking for a possible answer or for someone to tell me I am an idiot for trying this lol. Because if not I am just sending it to Femto I have been working with BMW in my town and we have been talking about taking a virgin X3M ecu and mating it to my 22 M3. The only question is would mating it upload the new BTLDR software as this is not technically cloning my old ECU its mating it to my car. The Service Manager does not know the answer to that but doesn't want to contact tech support to ask them for obvious reasons haha.
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