[sk3let0nz]

Originally Posted by LongBeachDinanFan

The biggest risk seems to be BMW doing an over the air computer update without even asking you.

You can turn remote software update download automatically off on the BMW app

[LongBeachDinanFan]

Originally Posted by sk3let0nz

You can turn remote software update download automatically off on the BMW app

Yes for now but I think sooner or later they will force you to remote update when something "important" comes along.

[Mcc420]

I was told to delete the my bmw app if you tune it.

[rmeitz167]

Originally Posted by Mcc420

I was told to delete the my bmw app if you tune it.

fml. thats one of the best parts of the damn g80's lol

[Indo Rider]

Originally Posted by rmeitz167

fml. thats one of the best parts of the damn g80's lol

Are you being serious? You like all the data about your driving habits and whereabouts being stored on the cloud? I turned everything off that I could and still paranoid that it's tracking everything anyway.

[rmeitz167]

Originally Posted by Indo Rider

Are you being serious? You like all the data about your driving habits and whereabouts being stored on the cloud? I turned everything off that I could and still paranoid that it's tracking everything anyway.

i mean being able to use the app as my key etc. You really think its not still tracking you? lol

[Sbm007]

So my ECU is unlocked and I have the Remote Software Upgrade option disabled from within the car itself (there is a tickbox somewhere in Settings > Privacy), and once you do this the car stops checking for updates too (I know this is as it warns you whenever you try to go to Remote Software Upgrade menu).

Also, I still use the My BMW app on a daily basis

I highly highly doubt the car would auto update and flash the ECU module by it self without prompting the user, not saying BMW can't if they want to, but just seems high unlikely they would do something like this

[Limegrntaln]

Originally Posted by Sbm007

So my ECU is unlocked and I have the Remote Software Upgrade option disabled from within the car itself (there is a tickbox somewhere in Settings > Privacy), and once you do this the car stops checking for updates too (I know this is as it warns you whenever you try to go to Remote Software Upgrade menu).

Also, I still use the My BMW app on a daily basis

I highly highly doubt the car would auto update and flash the ECU module by it self without prompting the user, not saying BMW can't if they want to, but just seems high unlikely they would do something like this

If they're forcing people to update, when you actively turn the feature off, they're just looking for another lawsuit.

[GixY2K]

Originally Posted by Indo Rider

Are you being serious? You like all the data about your driving habits and whereabouts being stored on the cloud? I turned everything off that I could and still paranoid that it's tracking everything anyway.

Not to go off topic, but I recently found out that our cell phones "bread crumbs" are for sale to the public. But before I go any further, let me just be clear that it is my understanding that our identities stay anonymous until there is a reason to identify such cell phone (i.e. a crime is committed and the government needs to know such information).

But to my point... We're developing a new traffic plan for an Air Force Base. And part of the plan called for the use of traffic patterns using cell phone signals that show where the base traffic comes from, what routes they take, and gates of choice (North or South gate, in the case of the base where I work), to help develop the plan.

Then, I happened to come across a documentary called, "2,000 mules", where they use the same technology to track "alleged" voting criminals that would go to some sort of "voting center", retrieve a number of voting ballots, and proceed to go around the city to drop these ballots in different ballot boxes.

Now, just to be clear, I don't want to get into the politics of this topic, I just like the science behind it. I work as the acting Geospatial Information Officer for #### an Air Force Base; a fancy title for a map maker. And as such, we use survey-grade GPS equipment to constantly update our maps and GIS programs (Geographic Information System) to store an almost infinite amount of map-feature information inside a database.

So, to my point, if you're paranoid about being tacked, I believe that is a battle we have all lost, at least those who use cell phones, even though we didn't know we were fighting it.

However, I'm sure you were just referring to BMW specifically tracking your driving habits. And if that is the case, I understand completely.

[///BMW Junkie]

Originally Posted by sk3let0nz

I paid $1,295 for BM3 + JordanTuned custom E85 map, then the $1,895 to get my ECU unlocked. Total - $3,190

Were you offered to get a separate ECU for cloning and/or know how much extra would the additional ECU cost?

[sk3let0nz]

Originally Posted by ///BMW Junkie

Were you offered to get a separate ECU for cloning and/or know how much extra would the additional ECU cost?

You can get a separate cloned ECU, I think that was $4k, but for cloned ECU you have to get an ecutek license for $950 and tuning by Visconti, which is another cost.

I chose to just do the ECU unlock service, but you can choose whichever service you want to do.

[///BMW Junkie]

Originally Posted by sk3let0nz

You can get a separate cloned ECU, I think that was $4k, but for cloned ECU you have to get an ecutek license for $950 and tuning by Visconti, which is another cost.

I chose to just do the ECU unlock service, but you can choose whichever service you want to do.

So $4K for the ECU and unlock service?

[Duta569]

Originally Posted by sk3let0nz

You can get a separate cloned ECU, I think that was $4k, but for cloned ECU you have to get an ecutek license for $950 and tuning by Visconti, which is another cost.

I chose to just do the ECU unlock service, but you can choose whichever service you want to do.

I had my ecu's unlocked. I was following the M3/M4 forums and budgeting my unlock off of previous M3/M4 owners getting it unlocked, even though I have a 550i. And I was excited to find out that the v8s have two ecu's that have to be unlocked, so everything was double the price for me! Awesome i know.

[sk3let0nz]

Originally Posted by ///BMW Junkie

So $4K for the ECU and unlock service?

Originally Posted by ///BMW Junkie

So $4K for the ECU and unlock service?

Yeah but then you HAVE to get the ecutek license and tuning by Visconti, so total ends up around $6k for that route because they have limited cloned ECUs

[sk3let0nz]

Originally Posted by Duta569

I had my ecu's unlocked. I was following the M3/M4 forums and budgeting my unlock off of previous M3/M4 owners getting it unlocked, even though I have a 550i. And I was excited to find out that the v8s have two ecu's that have to be unlocked, so everything was double the price for me! Awesome i know.

Originally Posted by ///BMW Junkie

So $4K for the ECU and unlock service?

Man that's fucked up for real

[///BMW Junkie]

Originally Posted by sk3let0nz

Yeah but then you HAVE to get the ecutek license and tuning by Visconti, so total ends up around $6k for that route because they have limited cloned ECUs

Why would you need to go only with ECUtek? Isn't it just a spare ecu that is unlocked?

[Limegrntaln]

Originally Posted by ///BMW Junkie

Why would you need to go only with ECUtek? Isn't it just a spare ecu that is unlocked?

Femto is the unlock, ECUTek is the software, if I'm not mistaken. So you need DME, Clone DME, ship to Finland to Femto, ship back, flash with ECUTek, and tune, return to customer.

[///BMW Junkie]

Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

Femto is the unlock, ECUTek is the software, if I'm not mistaken. So you need DME, Clone DME, ship to Finland to Femto, ship back, flash with ECUTek, and tune, return to customer.

Correct, I'm just trying to understand why couldn't I go with a different tuning platform even if I choose to use a spare (cloned ECU) once unlocked by Femto?

[Limegrntaln]

Originally Posted by ///BMW Junkie

Correct, I'm just trying to understand why couldn't I go with a different tuning platform even if I choose to use a spare (cloned ECU) once unlocked by Femto?

Yeah, I've heard people are using BM3 as well.

[sk3let0nz]

Originally Posted by ///BMW Junkie

Correct, I'm just trying to understand why couldn't I go with a different tuning platform even if I choose to use a spare (cloned ECU) once unlocked by Femto?

Idk but keep in mind this is how Visconti does it. Prob different with other tuners that might let you just get a cloned ECU itself, but I know with Visconti route you have to get ecutek + tune by them if you get cloned ecu

[femtoevo]

Clone is not required for any of the flasher platforms except ecutek.

[ss_m5]

Is this an exclusivity thing for femto for being the first to unlock it? They can gouge and make as much money as possible for a time they set. i think its fair but these prices are outrageous.