[spadae22]

Just note, my friend is a SA at BMW. They are actively scanning for ECU and piggy back tunes, so if you do it buy a spare ECU, or remove piggyback tune. Drive for 30 minutes. I also reset all codes before service.

[CHE///MIST3]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

Seriously, my only question is WHY anyone would think the G80/82 needs more power?

It already gets you from zero to jail time quicker than you can go from throttle to brake application.

I am not being flippant when I state I would be more in interested in a tune that attenuated power than one that added power.

///AVM

...and/or a tune that delivered power more linearly like an NA motor.

GM

[TrentMeister]

More power because there's hellcats to hunt

[PLife]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

Seriously, my only question is WHY anyone would think the G80/82 needs more power?

It already gets you from zero to jail time quicker than you can go from throttle to brake application.

I am not being flippant when I state I would be more in interested in a tune that attenuated power than one that added power.

///AVM

I think Mission Performance can do a valet mode. Subbed

[BadBoostedBMWM3]

Originally Posted by LBbluem2

More power because there's hellcats to hunt

Damn right!

I'm so close as is…

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by ///AVM

Seriously, my only question is WHY anyone would think the G80/82 needs more power?

It already gets you from zero to jail time quicker than you can go from throttle to brake application.

I am not being flippant when I state I would be more in interested in a tune that attenuated power than one that added power.

///AVM

The same reason we look at, and desire, another set of tits & ass when the tits & ass next to us is perfectly fine.

[Bimmer Nerd]

Originally Posted by spadae22

Just note, my friend is a SA at BMW. They are actively scanning for ECU and piggy back tunes, so if you do it buy a spare ECU, or remove piggyback tune. Drive for 30 minutes. I also reset all codes before service.

Can confirm. They're scanning all cars that are going into service for any signs of ECU temperament and automatically sending the info to BMW NA.
They just flagged my friends G30 that he purchased less than 2 months ago and this was with a SA that I've been going for years!

[hellokitty]

Originally Posted by Bimmer Nerd

Can confirm. They're scanning all cars that are going into service for any signs of ECU temperament and automatically sending the info to BMW NA.
They just flagged my friends G30 that he purchased less than 2 months ago and this was with a SA that I've been going for years!

There's really no way around this no matter how "cool" your SA is. If you tune your car, expect your drivetrain warranty to be lost.

Even if you avoid getting the car plugged in for dealer service, if there is a mechanical issue, they WILL plug your car in and see the DME has been tampered even if you flash back to stock.

Just a warning to those who are itching for more power. I personally think it's too early to tune unless you are willing to pony up for a new engine in the event there is a weakness in the S58 that has yet to be discovered.

[Baylorguy]

The S58 has been pretty resilient thus far. This conversation always cracks me up. Even stock tune cars will have a small % that fail. The good news is stock or not, as long as you are not driving like a bat out of hell 24/7 and you run colder plugs if you are tuned, you greatly reduce the chances of catastrophic failure. As everyone knows though, you can never reduce risk to 0, stock or otherwise.

[tsixtial]

It’s a simple as if you are worried about warranty do not mod your vehicle.

[hellokitty]

Originally Posted by Baylorguy

The S58 has been pretty resilient thus far. This conversation always cracks me up. Even stock tune cars will have a small % that fail. The good news is stock or not, as long as you are not driving like a bat out of hell 24/7 and you run colder plugs if you are tuned, you greatly reduce the chances of catastrophic failure. As everyone knows though, you can never reduce risk to 0, stock or otherwise.

The difference is a failure which is covered by BMW and a failure that sets you back big time financially.

Just because these tuner shops max out their shop car doesn't mean everyone should be doing the same. If they blow an engine, it's a business expense and they can get it back on the road in a matter of days or weeks.

In addition, that shop car likely made multiples in terms of return on investment for what they paid for the car and the mods they put on it. The clout is meant to get people to buy their products while us mortals have a depreciating asset that we are gambling with.

[FITM3NT]

Out of curiosity, if you've been flagged and on lease I'm assuming you're in default and they can call the loan due?

[Lady Jane]

Originally Posted by hellokitty

In addition, that shop car likely made multiples in terms of return on investment for what they paid for the car and the mods they put on it. The clout is meant to get people to buy their products while us mortals have a depreciating asset that we are gambling with.

So true! Just like the Jeep commercials ( and others) that destroy several vehicles during a shoot to show that the vehicle ( Close course and professional driver...) can do this and that. Yeah, right...

[Jproos]

If you mod your car like this you don't really think the manufacturer should still have to stand behind the powertrain warranty right? We all see that's not really reasonable, right?

[stefan]

Originally Posted by Jproos

If you mod your car like this you don't really think the manufacturer should still have to stand behind the powertrain warranty right? We all see that's not really reasonable, right?

hilarious. it's pay to play. people trying to find ways around warranty are unethical.

[Der_Wolf]

Originally Posted by spadae22

Just note, my friend is a SA at BMW. They are actively scanning for ECU and piggy back tunes, so if you do it buy a spare ECU, or remove piggyback tune. Drive for 30 minutes. I also reset all codes before service.

I've never heard of someone having an extra ECU for tunes and it actually seems like a great idea. This seems like the best move. Not sure what an ECU costs but I know it's less than an engine

[jninja]

Originally Posted by White340

How does one go about cracking something like this. Really some intelligent people out there…

Considering all of the dumb people out there...it's only logical that there's some smart cookies too right?

[not being sarcastic- at. all.]

[ChrisK]

Originally Posted by hellokitty

Wow this was way faster than expected as the F8X took years to crack.

Maybe an inside job?

[White340]

Originally Posted by jninja

Considering all of the dumb people out there...it's only logical that there's some smart cookies too right?

[not being sarcastic- at. all.]

Clearly, although we're talking about a much smaller percentage of brainiacs who can crack an ecu that was supposed to be uncrackable vs dumb ppl out there.

[jninja]

Originally Posted by White340

Clearly, although we're talking about a much smaller percentage of brainiacs who can crack an ecu that was supposed to be uncrackable vs dumb ppl out there.

Originally Posted by White340

Clearly, although we're talking about a much smaller percentage of brainiacs who can crack an ecu that was supposed to be uncrackable vs dumb ppl out there.

As there are a small group of REALLY dumb people out there (but is it that small really?)... have you seen people in public lately? I still find myself underestimating how dumb people can be- and likewise you're underestimating how smart people can be.

In all seriousness... there's nothing new under the sun. This code that code- whatever.. the point is it's a never ending cyclic match of the coders and decryptors.. why you think iPhones are always having you update for 'security'? Lol.

Anyways, good news for the g8x crowd. Looks like some dyno queens are gonna be hatching soon.

[e46e92love]

Originally Posted by Jproos

If you mod your car like this you don't really think the manufacturer should still have to stand behind the powertrain warranty right? We all see that's not really reasonable, right?

Oh.....but they don't. Then complain when they get caught or something breaks and blames BMW.....been happening since the summer of 2007.

Cheers,
e46e92

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by Bimmer Nerd

Can confirm. They're scanning all cars that are going into service for any signs of ECU temperament and automatically sending the info to BMW NA.
They just flagged my friends G30 that he purchased less than 2 months ago and this was with a SA that I've been going for years!

Originally Posted by FITM3NT

Out of curiosity, if you've been flagged and on lease I'm assuming you're in default and they can call the loan due?

I don't believe there is language yet about this in the lease contract. Big issue is when you turn in the vehicle, as the dealer will surely decline to purchase if the two departments (service and used cars) actually talk with each other that said vehicle has been flagged, then it will be punted to BMWFS to offload at auction for a lose.

Personally, I had a S55 SCH due to a tune, I paid up to fix out of warranty, but the dealership I turned the vehicle in at lease end had no clue of the SCH repair work as it was from an out there of state dealer and no warranty work was logged for the chassis with BMW NA— buyer beware. Another issue is having a Indy fix the S58 unknown to BMW NA and their will no trace of either engine/transmission failure due to a tune.

To the SA's, I'm sure that vehicles are being scanned vis ISTA upon lease turn in.