[LuvMyE92]

I will suggest that the differences in power are attributable mostly to the cooler temps. As noted, these gauges are all just software (RPM * TPS * Secret-X-factor = torque) but it is based on "science". So if (for instance) the car is running hot and having to reduce timing, that would restrict power and theoretically the gauges would/could reflect that.

OP is at a disadvantage living in the clouds (altitude) but it's a known/proven fact that turbo engines generate more power as the temperatures decrease; denser air = more power = less detonation.

You are welcome.

Digress: I wonder if the car was running under sub-optimal traction conditions where the DSC was engaging, if the gauges would reflect that? I'm not going to do it, because I believe in looking where I am going when driving at WOT or when traction limited, but you brave folks could try it. Just don't blame me if you run off the side of a cliff doing your experiments.

[RichardGM4]

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

Am picking up the M4C in a day or two so can't talk about the car. Can talk about the tech though.

BMW does have & has used the capability to limit power/torque till specific goals are met. Its strictly automatic.

My 335is had a factory built in temporary 50ftlb torque increase (boost) on WOT acceleration. This feature was locked out till the 1200 mile break-in was completed. Tested just before & just after 1200 miles rolled by on the odometer.

No doubt the car was stronger after 1200 miles. Feature was mentioned in the owners manual.

I took a demo G80 out for a test drive at the beginning of November, an hour or so before I ordered my G82.

The car was literally brand new, they had only fitted the M Performance parts a couple of days before and were only letting existing M car customers take it out, as it had only done ca. 200 miles so was nowhere near run in.

When I got back from the 30 mins test drive I told the sales guy "don't worry, I didn't thrash it as I'm aware it isn't even run it" and he told me not to worry as "the car is restricted anyway until its running in service".

Interesting and unprompted comment from him…

[Ex_Stig]

Originally Posted by RichardGM4

I took a demo G80 out for a test drive at the beginning of November, an hour or so before I ordered my G82.

The car was literally brand new, they had only fitted the M Performance parts a couple of days before and were only letting existing M car customers take it out, as it had only done ca. 200 miles so was nowhere near run in.

When I got back from the 30 mins test drive I told the sales guy "don't worry, I didn't thrash it as I'm aware it isn't even run it" and he told me not to worry as "the car is restricted anyway until its running in service".

Interesting and unprompted comment from him…

Sales guys will say just about anything.

BMW doesn't "restrict" performance prior to the 1200 mile service.

Think about it, eventually they are going to sell their demo and they know damn well that it has been pushed hard. Telling people that it's "restricted" is just a tactic to make some future owner feel better about the purchase.

[BEAR-AvHistory]

Originally Posted by Ex Stig

Do you have any documentation from BMW to verify this?

Car is long gone....that said there might be 335is 2011-2013 owners manuals on the internet. Its in there, that or do an internet look up on the car. Might be info there.



Since I had one & generally do the recommended break-in have no trouble remembering waiting for 1200 miles to roll by.

Was a limited production run 2500 coupes 2500 convertibles. The regular 335's had switched off to the N55 single turbo with MT & AT.

The "is" was burning up remaining stocks of N54 dual turbo engines. Transmissions were MT & unique to the USA 335's 7DCT's.



They also has a distinctive ECU. Was a beta tester for the JB4 package for the car. Posts on the JB4 were made during the period on the bimmerpost & the other BMW 3 series forums. If they maintain the old data my posts will be there.

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BEAR-AvHistory

#26 · Aug 29, 2012

Bottom of page 66 in owners manual. ***8220; Launch Control will not be available during break in period, refer to page 126***8221; for break-in procedures.

[RichardGM4]

Originally Posted by Ex Stig

Sales guys will say just about anything.

BMW doesn't "restrict" performance prior to the 1200 mile service.

Think about it, eventually they are going to sell their demo and they know damn well that it has been pushed hard. Telling people that it's "restricted" is just a tactic to make some future owner feel better about the purchase.

Fair enough and admittedly my F82 didn't feel any different before and after it's RIS tbf - his comments did make me wonder as he didn't have any reason to say it as it's highly unlikely I will ever meet the new owner of the G80, to be able to tell him/her I thrashed it or not

[2011ninja]

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

Car is long gone....that said there might be 335is 2011-2013 owners manuals on the internet. Its in there, that or do an internet look up on the car. Might be info there.



Since I had one & generally do the recommended break-in have no trouble remembering waiting for 1200 miles to roll by.

Was a limited production run 2500 coupes 2500 convertibles. The regular 335's had switched off to the N55 single turbo with MT & AT.

The "is" was burning up remaining stocks of N54 dual turbo engines. Transmissions were MT & unique to the USA 335's 7DCT's.



They also has a distinctive ECU. Was a beta tester for the JB4 package for the car. Posts on the JB4 were made during the period on the bimmerpost & the other BMW 3 series forums. If they maintain the old data my posts will be there.

EDIT

BEAR-AvHistory

#26 · Aug 29, 2012

Bottom of page 66 in owners manual. ***8220; Launch Control will not be available during break in period, refer to page 126***8221; for break-in procedures.

"To that end, the 335is gets 320 hp and 332 lb-ft torque from the twin-turbo 3.0-liter inline-six engine, and an overboost function allows for seven-second blasts of 370 lb-ft of torque. Unlike the regular-grade 2011 335i, the 335is sticks with the older twin-turbo engine for the simple reason that BMW engineers had more experience tuning it".

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...-coupe-review/

[Trojan4evr]

Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

Car is long gone....that said there might be 335is 2011-2013 owners manuals on the internet. Its in there, that or do an internet look up on the car. Might be info there.

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Since I had one & generally do the recommended break-in have no trouble remembering waiting for 1200 miles to roll by.

Was a limited production run 2500 coupes 2500 convertibles. The regular 335's had switched off to the N55 single turbo with MT & AT.

The "is" was burning up remaining stocks of N54 dual turbo engines. Transmissions were MT & unique to the USA 335's 7DCT's.

[IMG]https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/pi...ictureid=82944[/IMG]

They also has a distinctive ECU. Was a beta tester for the JB4 package for the car. Posts on the JB4 were made during the period on the bimmerpost & the other BMW 3 series forums. If they maintain the old data my posts will be there.

EDIT

BEAR-AvHistory

#26 · Aug 29, 2012

Bottom of page 66 in owners manual. ***8220; Launch Control will not be available during break in period, refer to page 126***8221; for break-in procedures.

I had an e90 335i and was infatuated with the 335is. I still love the e92 335is. It is such an under appreciated car. Pretty much the same engine as the 1M with a DCT option.