[MTM3]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

It's time for Bmw to come up with a manual drive train that can support the competition torque. If i recall this has been done with the F10 M5 6mt.

It's all BS marketing and a self fulfilled prophecy. MT can handle 24psi in Comp instead of 19psi in MT

[NightWriter]

Originally Posted by MTM3

It's all BS marketing and a self fulfilled prophecy. MT can handle 24psi in Comp instead of 19psi in MT

A transmission does not handle PSI, it handles torque. Nevertheless, I suspect BMW could have adapted/strengthened the 6MT to handle the Competition's output, but I agree it was a combination of marketing (wanting to make the Competition as fast as possible) and accounting (not wanting to invest money on a transmission that will likely sell in small volumes).

[TractionControlDelete]

Originally Posted by NightWriter

A transmission does not handle PSI, it handles torque. Nevertheless, I suspect BMW could have adapted/strengthened the 6MT to handle the Competition's output, but I agree it was a combination of marketing (wanting to make the Competition as fast as possible) and accounting (not wanting to invest money on a transmission that will likely sell in small volumes).

If the reports are right then it seems they will be providing the CS/CSL model with a manual transmission. Perhaps part of their strategy is charging a premium for higher performing manual?

[nearwater4me]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Yeah well if that’s real tell your guy he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. You might wanna have him read this. I’m done here.

https://www.bmwgroup.com/content/dam...ht-2021-EN.pdf

According to this 'half year report' dated 6/30, BMW had to make 'adjustments to the production schedule'.

[Scorp!on]

Originally Posted by F82KPowers

If the reports are right then it seems they will be providing the CS/CSL model with a manual transmission. Perhaps part of their strategy is charging a premium for higher performing manual?

I thought it will be ZF only?
At least what I read in the CSL topic on this board if I'm right.

[PhJ]

Originally Posted by PhJ

...
In the meantime, the Nürburgring lap time of the G82 Comp has just been released by Auto Sport and posted in Bimmerpost on August 5, 2021: 7 min 30,79 sec. This is an amazing lap time, confirming the excellent chassis of the new G8x and the engine capability of the Competition version. Special thanks to the excellent driver, Christian Gebhardt and to the optional PSC2 tires. It would be interesting to get the lap time with the standard PS4S tires.
...

Here is the answer to the question I raised in this thread. This is an info from the just released September 2021 edition of the Sport Auto magazine:
With PS4S, the M4 Competition achieved a Nürburgring lap time in 7 min 33 sec 86 , another amazing performance !
PhJ

[TractionControlDelete]

Originally Posted by Scorp!on

I thought it will be ZF only?
At least what I read in the CSL topic on this board if I'm right.

That's true, I've read the same. However, in the spy videos of the alleged G8X CS the car sounds like it has a manual transmission. Wether they actually pull the trigger is another story

[MTM3]

Originally Posted by NightWriter

A transmission does not handle PSI, it handles torque. Nevertheless, I suspect BMW could have adapted/strengthened the 6MT to handle the Competition's output, but I agree it was a combination of marketing (wanting to make the Competition as fast as possible) and accounting (not wanting to invest money on a transmission that will likely sell in small volumes).

That’s what I meant the torque from 24psi vs 19psi

[TractionControlDelete]

Originally Posted by MTM3

That’s what I meant the torque from 24psi vs 19psi

How much would that translate to? I'm assuming you believe it can handle more than the 443 lb. ft. that ZF rates it for

[0Camus0]

Well, I'd like to bring this thread to life again, now that there are more data available.

No idea about what is the fastest F80/F82 manual in 60 - 130 mph, but G80_Soom and I are back to back in times for the G8X manual, take a look at the leaderboard:



Every single car above of us is a competition one ( there are slower competition than us too ), but we are pretty much on what can be done with minor mods (dp and tune/jb4). Most of the M3C/M4C with the same mods are about 0.5s faster or even more.

Between the long gear ratios, the clutch delay valve, the clutch slip, the boost drop while shifting and our human slow speed, it's hard to compete with the competition (pun intended).

Still, high 6s in the 60 - 130 mph is really quick, yeah, it's not Turbo S Tuned quick as the M3C but it's fast.

I would think that mod to mod, the F80C/F82C manual is slower, I've seen some doing these times and they usually have port injection / meth injection plus some pure turbos.

[TractionControlDelete]

Originally Posted by 0Camus0

Well, I'd like to bring this thread to life again, now that there are more data available.

No idea about what is the fastest F80/F82 manual in 60 - 130 mph, but G80_Soom and I are back to back in times for the G8X manual, take a look at the leaderboard:



Every single car above of us is a competition one ( there are slower competition than us too ), but we are pretty much on what can be done with minor mods (dp and tune/jb4). Most of the M3C/M4C with the same mods are about 0.5s faster or even more.

Between the long gear ratios, the clutch delay valve, the clutch slip, the boost drop while shifting and our human slow speed, it's hard to compete with the competition (pun intended).

Still, high 6s in the 60 - 130 mph is really quick, yeah, it's not Turbo S Tuned quick as the M3C but it's fast.

I would think that mod to mod, the F80C/F82C manual is slower, I've seen some doing these times and they usually have port injection / meth injection plus some pure turbos.

Here you go:

6.97 - Swiftym3 - F80 M3 6MT / F80paul e85 tune / Intake charge pipe / DPs3 shifts / Dragy
6.99 - TopJimmy / F80 M3 6MT / BM3 PJT E85 still tuning / BMCs / VTT CPs / ER Catted DPs / AA Sig / No Shift - Dragy

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1383036

[G80_Soom]

Originally Posted by TractionControlDelete

Here you go:

6.97 - Swiftym3 - F80 M3 6MT / F80paul e85 tune / Intake charge pipe / DPs3 shifts / Dragy
6.99 - TopJimmy / F80 M3 6MT / BM3 PJT E85 still tuning / BMCs / VTT CPs / ER Catted DPs / AA Sig / No Shift - Dragy

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1383036

Fastest F8x manual on record is @f82_6spdking on IG. He did 6.56 on stock turbos and 5.56 on upgraded turbos.

I now hold the fastest stock turbo BMW manual record at 6.34 with the G80. I will be shooting for low 5's once a big single is released for our cars.

[TractionControlDelete]

Originally Posted by G80_Soom

Fastest F8x manual on record is @f82_6spdking on IG. He did 6.56 on stock turbos and 5.56 on upgraded turbos.

I now hold the fastest stock turbo BMW manual record at 6.34 with the G80. I will be shooting for low 5's once a big single is released for our cars.

Respect 💪