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I look forward to the day someone tries to convince me about the speed of Porsches with what they have achieved. Not 'someone's youtube video' or 'my friend'. It isn't like I've driven two laps in a Porsche one time in my life and have made conclusions based on that. I've driven plenty. The nicest was definitely a 991.2 6MT GT3
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I have a GT4 on order and I have no doubt it will be a better sports car than my M3 for both the street and the track. But there's no way the Porsche will be more comfortable to drive than my CS-swapped '15 F80. I've driven several 911's and caymans and they are all much less smooth and more road-following on uneven pavement and have significantly more road noise. My F80 is an excellent track car, fun as hell on the street, and capable of 10hr road trips without fatigue. The G8X will be perfectly fine for track use out of the box, and even better over time with the software updates that BMW will inevitably release.
In fact, I'm not convinced I'll like the GT4 better for most of my usage, which tends to be errand running and 3-5hr afternoon cruises with the wife.
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I just got my first GT car in a 718 GT4 and I track a few times a year. Went to an event at NYST and my times were significantly faster than guys in M3/4 CS that were there and were also modded. I was in a stock alignment GT4 and was many seconds faster. And that was me running intermediate vs the most experienced group. And I’m sure with a more experienced driver or me with more time and also an actual alignment there is a lot more in the car. The GT3s that were there were the fastest cars of the day by far. My experience is that if driven well (Same skill levels) the Porsches are not only the fastest but also most consistent. |
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i seriously considered the new 718 GTS 4.0 in my due diligence process .. and honestly if i wasn't leasing, getting the cayman is no brainer. It and maybe the C8 vette are leagues of their own in terms of driving dynamics this side of 100k usd or cad.. not to mention these Porsches hold value so well in Canada.
too bad lease numbers look horrible for essentially the same MSRP as M4 (if I go for a "poverty" spec Cayman GTS ), not to mention the rather dated interior and tech.
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The GTS is a nice car and can’t go wrong with that option but I don’t think they’re much cheaper once you add options. Either way, I’m loving my GT4 even though I don’t drive it a ton. Was going to do another track day at NJMP in November but opted out given weather will likely be too cold so will wait for spring. |
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I did some quick math a while ago on depreciation of a GTS 4.0 and GT4 when I was making this decision to finance, given the lower residual on the GTS, it actually did not make sense to finance a GTS. GT cars just hold their value better and 105k for a non GT car cayman was hard to justify for me as that is getting into poverty Carrera territory. This may change when more GTS 4.0s hit lots and dealers are aggressive on pricing. If the GTS 4.0 with options was ~85k I would have bought it on the spot. |
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I think the GTS cars look great but much more under stated in looks. They are going to be very rare (is what I am hearing) and should also hold value well so I presume discounts will be far and few between. Last edited by HeelToeShift; 10-26-2020 at 11:28 AM.. |
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The GT4 looks like a special car. The GTS looks like every other Porsche you ever see.
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From my recent experience of driving a base 992 C4 on track, I can attest that it changes direction with much more conviction than any of my ///Ms (E46/E92/F82/F82cs). Further, looking at the G8X stats, it seems like it is carrying a fair bit of weight on its front axle, much more so than the F8X (~200lb of the 300 extra lbs are on the front axle). The AWD version will be even worse. No wonder they had to widen the front tires and track so much. The front axle on the G8X will have to work quite hard indeed.
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My wife is insisting on the bucket seats because they would be "awesome."
Is there anything about the seat design that would preclude a harness being attached to them? Something like a Schroth QFP. The standard seat doesn't appear to have a gap at the headrest area so looks like any type of harness wouldn't be possible. |
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