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No. They didn't allow pictures at any of the private viewing events. You had to check everything (including Apple watches and sunglasses) before going into the booth. Very cloak and dagger.
I agree with the G80 looking better than the G82, but it's suggestive. M4 looked larger in that tight, black-walled room. Perhaps they will look better when you can see their proportions from a distance.
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No. I would think the US base model will be less than Belgium and German markets, as I believe the US is the top volume M market. BMW NA can't overprice the G80/G82/G83, as it would be a repeat of the M3/M4 CS and M8 coupe/cabrio's that are sitting in dealership lots and required flagship money to sell the models.
US market is all about moving metal in large volume. Expect a few thousand above the previous F80/F82/F83. Only M model that has held to MRSP pricing in the US is the M2.
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Nice, thanks for sharing! One more week until reveal!
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It's really too bad how much more expensive European cars are in Europe...
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Its starting to be a tougher sell against the C8, Cayman 4.0 M2C for purists, but nonetheless the S58 will probably be the gold standard twin turbo I6.
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That being said, since we're talking about the C8, one feature I love about it that I wish certain manufacturers with on-the-fly-adjusting-suspension (cough, Adaptive M Suspension, cough) is the GPS memory raise / lower the front for steeper driveways and such. Where I live there are a ton of business driveways that have surprisingly steep dips into / out of the road due to pave-over jobs, drainage gutters, poor maintenance, whatever. I've seen compact SUVs like the Mazda CX5 and similar sizes scrape if they go straight in / out. And there are visible gouges in the road - repeatedly, even after fresh maintenance - from other vehicles scraping. Article on the C8's front lift here : https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...art-lift-nose/ https://hmg-h-cdn.hearstapps.com/vid...1563826303.mp4 edit - disclaimer, I'm aware that the components of the current adaptive suspension may not have enough travel to do this, just saying it'd be nice to see things go that route as adaptive aero comes into vogue. |
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Pricing isn't standardized world wide with just currency differences allowing conversion. There are all kinds of local market dynamics and regulations that play into it globally
If you want an idea of what msrp you will see for an M3 or M4 in the USA and rough ball park of what the comparable packages will cost just build and price an x3m or x4m. Then refer back to the f8x for things like ccb. If you scan through the USA order guides across the M model lines and the full line you will see bmw is very consistent with package structure and pricing based on content. They aren't going to blow up that logic just for one car (especially one that is meant to sell in volume) I would bet you will see the core build options: -Base car 6mt includes most of premium package content -Comp package similar to x3m (power, styling, exhaust) with the auto bundled in. Wild card here could be: do they move the suspension upgrade out of comp and into track pack so it is accessible to both manual and auto. In which case comp would become more of a style package. -Driver assist pro -parking pack possibly or rolled into exec -Exec pack (rest of the luxury options not covered in base) -Track pack (cooling, tires - cup2 optional) -Ccbs -Carbon fiber styling pack - a few other m specific odds and ends -2022 add xdrive +2k |
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I have a feeling that my G82 M4 AWD will be $90k msrp optioned out and $100k after VAT. It’s $30k more than my F80 and about mid way to a 992 S
I always thought M cars are some of the best values in the automotive world period. The G8X is still good value if performance is were I think it will be but a $100k bill does move it into another segment. |
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Wonder how much I can get it for since I don't pay taxes and get 10% off MSRP? Hmmm.
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more than I expected, thought maybe $2,000, but maybe there are things it has the X3MC doesn't... what is really interesting is a X5M is $2,000 more in US than M5 But looks like a M3 will be $4,000 more than X3M. Seems like X3M would cost more to build with same M parts as M3. another things to point out, M340i is $2,000 less than X3 M40i maybe someone can fill me in on the EXTRA cost of the M3 over X3M |
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X3 M40i and m340 xdrive = $100 difference ( your comparison was rwd vs the xdrive suv) Looking at the existing relevant m performance and full m lineups (x3/x4, 3/4/5, x5/x6) all in all we are talking about pricing within 2-3% between the suv and sedan cousin, between sedan/suv and coupe/suv coupe version. I would not expect the M3/m4 to diverge wildly from that logic |
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