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      01-09-2022, 11:24 PM   #1
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Individual paint and resale

It's been said that there are some options out there that will "get you your money back" .. things like buckets or CCB on a GT3. True or not I'm not sure.

Has anyone looked into how bad people get hosed after selling / trading a car with individual paint?

I'm not looking for anything super bright/bold and also think that there's a chance I don't keep the car too incredibly long so I'm torn … playing it safe would be just grab Skyscraper and call it a day but Grigio telesto and a couple others are very interesting to me.

I'd probably be trading the car in so I'm not sure the specifics of the options list makes much of a difference or not … I used to think a car wouldn't sell without a sunroof bc that's what I was told but I still always had equity on my F80s when I traded them in after a year of ownership.

Thanks for any input.
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      01-10-2022, 02:00 AM   #2
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First thing, you really should by the color you love. If it costs more so be it. For me, I have chosen both standard and individual colors in the past, and currently have a G82 in Verde Ermes on a ship. I love that color so ordered it. Cost $8000 Aussie dollars more. I am not expecting to get it back, and if I do get something back, great, but love the color so for me it was worth it.

Individual colors can make your car unique on the used market which means if someone out there is looking for that color when you are selling, they can be prepared to pay a premium, others not.

If you love the color and can afford it, then get it cause you will love it and enjoy it.

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First thing, you really should by the color you love. If it costs more so be it. For me, I have chosen both standard and individual colors in the past, and currently have a G82 in Verde Ermes on a ship. I love that color so ordered it. Cost $8000 Aussie dollars more. I am not expecting to get it back, and if I do get something back, great, but love the color so for me it was worth it.

Individual colors can make your car unique on the used market which means if someone out there is looking for that color when you are selling, they can be prepared to pay a premium, others not.

If you love the color and can afford it, then get it cause you will love it and enjoy it.

That is my opinion.
He's going to trade it to a dealer in a year and they won't care what color it is. Private sale, people actually care about the interesting individual colors.
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      01-10-2022, 04:08 AM   #4
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You absolutely do get your money back on certain options on a GT3. I sold mine for a very decent amount before the used car market boom and wouldn't have gotten as much back if it weren't for the PTS (Porsche's version of individual) and options like the PCCB's. However, that's a 911 GT3 - a car made in much lower numbers than an M3/M4, and a car that is near universally desirable and has been for many generations.

I could go on about value proposition and how something is worth a certain amount to the individual person, but I'd like to echo the sentiment by GregM4 - do what makes you happy.

Skyscraper grey is a $2k option, GTP is $4500.. the price delta of $2500 and possible recuperation of said $2500 in the used car market should not be the deciding factor between the two. If you wanted a car ASAP and couldn't wait, I'd understand getting Skyscraper as GTP needs to be approved and an allocation would probably get pushed back further vs. a semi-individual paint like Skyscraper, but at the end of the day - you can't be worried about getting back $2500 in a few years. Car purchases are an emotional decision for us enthusiasts, and I can't imagine ever being unhappy looking at my car, thinking about what could've been if I had just waited a bit longer for a true individual paint/shelled out a measly $2500 for something I really wanted. To each his own, but regret is something I truly hate.

Just my $0.02.

Edit: I see that Skyscraper isn't semi individual and is a normal paint. Point still stands about the value except it's $4k rather than $2500. So if you can't wait, Skyscraper can definitely work, but if you can - then I'd get GTP hands down.
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      01-10-2022, 04:58 AM   #5
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Correction: Skyscraper Gray is $550 option, so upcharge to Individual paint like Grigio Telesto is more like $4,000.

That said, I agree with the others: get exactly what you want, resale value be damned. Your additional wait time will be a few weeks at most.
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      01-10-2022, 05:18 AM   #6
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Correction: Skyscraper Gray is $550 option, so upcharge to Individual paint like Grigio Telesto is more like $4,000.

That said, I agree with the others: get exactly what you want, resale value be damned. Your additional wait time will be a few weeks at most.
Good catch! I was thinking of Dravit Grey.
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      01-10-2022, 05:20 AM   #7
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Im on the other side of the coin. Spending $5k for a color reasonably close to one of the standard colors makes no sense to me.

Im not familiar with the color you like, but you should expect to get zero back in resale value. No dealer is going to pay up for some unusual color. They don't want something thats going to sit around.

Now i admit, im very frugal (not as frugal as the guy on the m5 forum buying a new m5 for cash that makes $45k/year, but frugal). Selling private party used, most folks are looking for a deal, that's why they are buying used instead of ordering new.

Get the closest thing to what you really want and in 18 months when you sell it, send me half of the $5k i just saved you.

Now if you were going to have a love affair with it and keep it >5 years, my opinion might be different.
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      01-10-2022, 06:30 AM   #8
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Thanks for the input guys … all good points … i know the only real answer is that no one can say for sure what it'll go for when I'm ready to sell.

I would be very happy with any of the basic colors so I'm definitely not holding back big time and "ruining my one big chance at true love" haha … just curious what others may have seen when they go to trade / sell. Especially knowing I may trade the car in a few months (Z06 if available?) …. I'll most likely go for a standard color since it seems the individual color may be hard to sell my wife based on the uncertainty of recapturing the cash.

I will say that I'm overall pleased with the standard color choices… watch for my post in a couple months to see if I got impulsive or not lol
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      01-10-2022, 07:19 AM   #9
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Unlike CCBs or seats on GT cars, individual paint on a G8x platform will target a specific set of buyers. If it is a trade in, most dealers might low ball for the same reason. If you sell it directly to a buyer who values this option, you will be able to recoup the cost.

There was a similar discussion in the recent past and here is a link to it - https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1854312
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      01-10-2022, 07:39 AM   #10
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Grigio telesto definately won't cause any harm to the value of the vehicle .Never heard anyone to dislike it as a colour .I would say the opposite and suits this car well ! Its kind of a safer option for an individual compared to some other bold options that some hate and others love! Waiting to see what this mini LCI brings and am going individual as well...YOLO!
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Good catch! I was thinking of Dravit Grey.
Definitely recommend dravit. Its amazing how many different colors it looks in all different lighting settings.
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I wouldn’t. Given that you’ll be trading the car in after a short while, I would keep your costs low as you’ll be losing money (most likely) no matter what options you get.

If this was something you’d keep for a while and you’re out right buying it, then I would say it’s worth it to have exactly what you want.

Additionally, the best bet for the highest resale is to get an individual color, 6 speed, with low options (enthusiast spec), put as little miles as possible and then a decade later, sell it to a collector or a specialist dealer like EAG.
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On previous gens individual color cars brought a premium. On the current G8x it seems since most people were ordering their cars and not just buying them off the lot alot of people opted for upcharge colors like dravit, or full individual colors since they were going to be waiting for the car anyway. You dont see many alpine white cars like you did in the F8x gen.
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I wouldn’t. Given that you’ll be trading the car in after a short while, I would keep your costs low as you’ll be losing money (most likely) no matter what options you get.

If this was something you’d keep for a while and you’re out right buying it, then I would say it’s worth it to have exactly what you want.

Additionally, the best bet for the highest resale is to get an individual color, 6 speed, with low options (enthusiast spec), put as little miles as possible and then a decade later, sell it to a collector or a specialist dealer like EAG.
I wish I was able to keep my F80 and my G80 but had to sell the F80. It was a 2018 alpine white competition 6 speed with the carbon structure interior. It was the lowest mileage car up for sale at the time. only 3600 miles. I got what I paid for the car 3 years ago. Enthusiast spec.
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Unlike CCBs or seats on GT cars, individual paint on a G8x platform will target a specific set of buyers. If it is a trade in, most dealers might low ball for the same reason. If you sell it directly to a buyer who values this option, you will be able to recoup the cost.

There was a similar discussion in the recent past and here is a link to it - https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1854312
Essentially this. Why are most cars on dealer lots black, blue (and not the smurf tones we all love), silver, and white? With a disproportionate amount of black standard interiors? Because fewer people will be offended enough by any of those safe colors, to walk away from an otherwise good, readily-available deal. I’ve had this discussion so many times with dealer management across many brands - apparently what the majority of the folks on here tend to like in terms of individuality, isn’t exactly mainstream.

I’ve always been warned that particularly individual builds, will be worth less in trade. Sometimes I listen, sometimes I don’t. I didn’t listen when ordering transparent red forgelines for a yellow car. I loved it - the car fetched great money back on stock rims, and I sold the forgelines, it took forever, and I basically had to eat the cost of round trip shipping to forgeline and a refinish.

That being said, the individual greys shouldn’t hamper resale. But they won’t help it dollar for dollar either.
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indiv resale all comes down to the buyer (thats anything though right)
I think were things get a little dicey is when you get a really wild color or color combo (ie purple lets say) then you can have a little more snuggle bc your pool of buyers is most likely a lot smaller however could have the potential to be stronger gross wise also bc of the drive.

as far as trade in value, 90% of the time it makes no difference in the positive. IT can however work in the negative if the color combo is, in the eye of the dealer not demanding

at the end of the day a car shouldn't be looked at a appreciating asset so with that in mind you should figure your going to lose some money but in the short term get whatever you want and enjoy it, life is too short. Its not the car to buy for investment purposes
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Agree with other thoughts here...it all comes down to buyer preferences.
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If you don't keep cars for long then I wouldn't really bother with the individual color for a purchase, if it concerns you about trade-in/resale value.

Or, lease the vehicle. Then you don't ever have to car about trade-in/resale values (unless wanting to terminate the lease early).
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I have had a couple of individual paintworks, Signal Green & Fire Orange, glad I went with them, but made no difference when it came to trading them. Sure private sale could see you with a nice little premium from the right buyer.

OP - As echoed above if you can afford it go for it! No point worrying and enjoy.

I will be going individual on my G81 Touring build.
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indiv resale all comes down to the buyer (thats anything though right)
I think were things get a little dicey is when you get a really wild color or color combo (ie purple lets say) then you can have a little more snuggle bc your pool of buyers is most likely a lot smaller however could have the potential to be stronger gross wise also bc of the drive.

as far as trade in value, 90% of the time it makes no difference in the positive. IT can however work in the negative if the color combo is, in the eye of the dealer not demanding

at the end of the day a car shouldn't be looked at a appreciating asset so with that in mind you should figure your going to lose some money but in the short term get whatever you want and enjoy it, life is too short. Its not the car to buy for investment purposes
I think it's hilarious anytime I hear a car care related product advertisement that mentions protecting your investment.
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I think it's hilarious anytime I hear a car care related product advertisement that mentions protecting your investment.
You can certainly protect your investment, nobody said it was a good investment.
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Especially knowing I may trade the car in a few months (Z06 if available?)
OP, that clearly changes the calculus of my response (and probably a few others'). DON'T pay the extra money to specify an Individual color if you're not likely to keep the car very long -- unless you've got money to burn. It sounds like you can find a standard ($550) color you can tolerate/enjoy, so go with that.
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