[Limegrntaln]

The US version of the Laser Lights in dumbed down from the European Spec. Antidazzle is disabled, and the beam doesn't project near as far as those in the EU. I believe the US cars Project 600 meters, and the EU Project 900 meters.

[jimbethesda]

Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

The US version of the Laser Lights in dumbed down from the European Spec. Antidazzle is disabled, and the beam doesn't project near as far as those in the EU. I believe the US cars Project 600 meters, and the EU Project 900 meters.

Via software, correct? Or are the lights themselves different?

[Limegrntaln]

Originally Posted by jimbethesda

Via software, correct? Or are the lights themselves different?

Yes, I believe it's software restricted. I'd cross referenced the part numbers, in the past 6 months, and couldn't find anywhere, where it showed a different part number.

[jimbethesda]

Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

Yes, I believe it's software restricted. I'd cross referenced the part numbers, in the past 6 months, and couldn't find anywhere, where it showed a different part number.

So, does that mean it can be coded out too?

Almaretto Is this part of your coding? Or only the anti-dazzle part?

[Limegrntaln]

Originally Posted by jimbethesda

So, does that mean it can be coded out too?

Almaretto Is this part of your coding? Or only the anti-dazzle part?

Yes, it's my understanding that when you code antidazzle, you'd also code VLD or variable light distribution, which should also allow the full beam range.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by jimbethesda

Your overall post is correct, however it's been reported here (I'm not 100% sure this is correct) that the decrease in light output is achieved through software. The lights are the same hardware, as you said.

I'm not sure if part of the anti dazzle coding also removes the light output restriction.

I don't believe so, the light output itself seems to be all the same for the entire free world, even in the US .. There is nothing to support otherwise, other than speculation.

I remember reading that BMW was able to make an endrun around the draconian US lighting laws to allow high-output laser high beams because the logic behind this was it only operated at higher speeds and in limited conditions, with assistence from a camera, so it was specifcally exempt from being typically nutured.

The only difference is the US lights can't operate as indvidual beams (Anti-dazzle), which is only restricted by software.



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[jimbethesda]

Originally Posted by Poochie

I don't belive so, the light output itself seems to be all the same for the entire free world, even in the US .. There is nothing to support otherwise, other than speculation.

I remember reading that BMW was able to make an endrun around the draconian US lighting laws to allow high-output laser high beams because the logic behind this was it only operated at higher speeds and limited conditions, with assistence from a camera, so it was specifcally exempt from being typically nutured.

The only difference is the US lights can't in a operate as indvidual beams (Anti-dazzle), which is only restricted by software.



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Interesting. Perhaps the lower light output in the US is just a myth that lives on like the break-in service increases HP.

Maybe someone who has done anti-dazzle coding can chime in if there appears to be a brightness configuration setting that is set to a lower value in the US.

[snareman]

Originally Posted by jimbethesda

Interesting. Perhaps the lower light output in the US is just a myth that lives on like the break-in service increases HP.

Maybe someone who has done anti-dazzle coding can chime in if there appears to be a brightness configuration setting that is set to a lower value in the US.

I have anti-dazzled my last several cars and there was no change in brightness, certainly not a 70% increase, or relatively to 30%, a 200% increase.

[WraithM5]

Originally Posted by BardG

What is your view on Laserlights? I've heard on dark rural roads they're great, but otherwise in general urban conditions there isn't a great advantage to having them. On paper they look pretty good. Anyone have real world feedback?

I like the laser lights because when I high beam people going to slow they definitely get the idea.

[The Nerd]

Originally Posted by BardG

What is your view on Laserlights? I've heard on dark rural roads they're great, but otherwise in general urban conditions there isn't a great advantage to having them. On paper they look pretty good. Anyone have real world feedback?

Not one mention of the fact that….headlight output aside, the daytime running lights look WAY better with the Laser option. That's reason enough (in my opinion) to get them.

[vetteflier]

The fact is they are the best brights available in the US. Whether they are as good as they could be, they are far superior to LED/HID, et al. I got them in the Executive package and glad I did. Noticeable improvement on unlit country roads.

[themnmd]

Originally Posted by jimbethesda

The infrastructure bill enables the DOT to allow it. They haven't yet. Hopefully soon.

Biggest question is will BMW enable this feature on existing cars once it's legal via the OTA? I hope so. I got mine coded, but it would be nice to get the latest software updates without having to recode every time.

Yes hopefully soon. Also Audi, Porsche aka VW has amazing headlight technology too

[jmg]

Originally Posted by The Nerd

Not one mention of the fact that….headlight output aside, the daytime running lights look WAY better with the Laser option. That's reason enough (in my opinion) to get them.

Anyone have side by side photos of Laserlights vs standard light for both daytime and nighttime?

[MTM3]

Originally Posted by The Nerd

Not one mention of the fact that….headlight output aside, the daytime running lights look WAY better with the Laser option. That's reason enough (in my opinion) to get them.

Yes DRL function is sad with non Laser setup.

[The Nerd]

Originally Posted by jmg

Anyone have side by side photos of Laserlights vs standard light for both daytime and nighttime?

Here you go….

[jmg]

Originally Posted by The Nerd

Here you go….

You only get the 3/4 halos with the Laserlights?!

Clever girl.

[FISH22]

I'm another for laser lights even if it's just for the DRLs. Really finishes the look.

[nathanm4]

It's simply a must-have option. Don't need to think further.

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by WraithM5

I like the laser lights because when I high beam people going to slow they definitely get the idea.

You can't manually activate the laser light high beam "booster" - that is done automatically by the computer's logic, when the proper conditions and speed are met.

What you are seeing when you operate the high-beam stalk is regular LED high-beam output, as you would get with the standard, non-laser G8X headlights.

The laser light technology acts as an ancillary portion of the overall high-beam lighting, not a replacement to conventional LEDs.



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[filostrato]

Does anyone in the US market have video of anti-dazzle after recoding? I'd love to be able to add this functionality back as the lights were intended to work.

From what I remember some F8x drivers were not able to get it to work correctly even after redoing the code

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by filostrato

Does anyone in the US market have video of anti-dazzle after recoding? I'd love to be able to add this functionality back as the lights were intended to work.

From what I remember some F8x drivers were not able to get it to work correctly even after redoing the code

This dude below had the most accurate representation of Anti-Dazzle I've seen on a US-spec vehicle, in which this feature was recoded.

Notice how the light beam pattern output on the vehicle ahead is eclipsed or "tunnels," so glaring light isn't cast into the upcoming driver's line of sight. Each headlight (left/right) independently moves vertically, horizontally or shutters, allowing the high beam or beamS to stay on even when other cars are present.

This was really impressive, considering that the driver was traveling in a city setting, with tons of congestion, street lights and signs, which in my experience, causes the camera to typically be fooled by the reflectiveness but his seemed to work really well.

View post on imgur.com

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=25722934

[filostrato]

Originally Posted by Poochie

This dude below had the most accurate representation of Anti-Dazzle I've seen on a US-spec vehicle, in which this feature was recoded.

Notice how the light beam pattern output on the vehicle ahead is eclipsed or "tunnels," so glaring light isn't cast into the upcoming driver's line of sight. Each headlight (left/right) independently moves vertically, horizontal, or shutters, allowing the high beam or beamS to stay on even when other cars are present.

This was really impressive, considering that the driver was traveling in a city setting, with tons of congestion, street lights and signs, which in my experience, causes the cameras to typically be fooled by the reflectiveness but his seemed to work really well.


https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=25722934

Thank you for uploading! I agree that this is really impressive in a congested urban setting. e sys rabbit hole here I come...