[forumlurker]

Originally Posted by Mr Friese

Yep, I was on the hate brigade for awhile until I picked up my Model Y Performance. There's literally nothing else like it. ICE still has its place, but having also owned an F80 M3cs and a G80 M3 MT, anyone saying that they would "smoke" the M3P is telling little white lies.

And people please, for the love of god, don't bring modifications into the equation. No one cares that you can beat car X because you are modded. I can also mod my Civic to beat every car on the road... no... one... cares.

But performance modifications play a huge role to enjoying ICE cars. I wouldn't discount that.

With enough $ and time, ICE cars beat any EVs off the line.

[BMWsully]

I don't have a horse in this race, but I do find it oddly amusing that owners of quite possibly the the ugliest front end / grill in the current automotive landscape are critiquing the styling of Tesla, lol.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by BMWsully

I don't have a horse in this race, but I do find it oddly amusing that owners of quite possibly the the ugliest front end / grill in the current automotive landscape are critiquing the styling of Tesla, lol.

Exactly. The g8x is an ugly ass car. But it is a great platform in terms of performances. I like performance so that’s why I got one.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Exactly. The g8x is an ugly ass car. But it is a great platform in terms of performances. I like performance so that’s why I got one.

Highly subjective LOL

I think its more polarizing than just ugly but again a subjective opine on my end.

I do think the Teslas (well my Plaid) have the better front for sure but Ive grown to like the Nostrils as only an owner can and should (I think??)

[Jackie Chiles]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Highly subjective LOL

I think its more polarizing than just ugly but again a subjective opine on my end.

I do think the Teslas (well my Plaid) have the better front for sure but Ive grown to like the Nostrils as only an owner can and should (I think??)

Along the same line, the ugliness of the front bumper of my Model 3 makes it easy to love the M4's audacious grill.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Jackie Chiles

Along the same line, the ugliness of the front bumper of my Model 3 makes it easy to love the M4's audacious grill.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Highly subjective LOL

I think its more polarizing than just ugly but again a subjective opine on my end.

I do think the Teslas (well my Plaid) have the better front for sure but Ive grown to like the Nostrils as only an owner can and should (I think??)

It’s a bold design but it’s still ugly.

Everything else on the car is nice and aggressive. There’s no perfect looking car.

The plaid is a lot better looking than any m car in my opinion. Older model s’s look like crap and I think people think of the older ones and make judgement on new ones based off previous designs.

The model s plaid is one aggressive menancing looking car that actually looks good from all angles.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

It’s a bold design but it’s still ugly.

Everything else on the car is nice and aggressive. There’s no perfect looking car.

The plaid is a lot better looking than any m car in my opinion. Older model s’s look like crap and I think people think of the older ones and make judgement on new ones based off previous designs.

The model s plaid is one aggressive menancing looking car that actually looks good from all angles.

What about my M8 --- I think this coupe is better than the GC and gives the Plaid a run

[2011ninja]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

You're right about people needing to learn about the car.

The thing is that usually people fall prey to hate on something when they see others doing it. Without ever knowing what it's about.

Meaning pick a subject your co-workers typically talk shit about, then go up to them the next day and go, "hey, did you see that video yesterday with the interview elon had? That was crazy right?".

Then your coworker (without ever knowing what you're talking about but because they hate elon would respond like this), "yeah i know!! Elon is so dumb i can't believe he would say stupid shit like that"

Then you can say, i was joking there was no interview i just wanted to hear your response when elon is the subject.

It's an odd psychological way of wiring your brain to hate something you don't understand anything about.

I get my model 3, park it in the lot and right away, "sooooo who got the tesla? Can i see it?"

Ohhhhhhh give me a ride!!!

HOly fuck this is fast as fuck!!!

hahaha omg omg, i think i wanna get one of these now.

:

Bro SMH

I must be old my co-workers don't talk crap about anything

Politics maybe

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by Vic55

What about my M8 --- I think this coupe is better than the GC and gives the Plaid a run

lol honestly i don't like the the M8 coupe styling. I think if i went M8 shopping right now, i would be looking at the GC's. The 2 door coupes look weird. That's why i didn't get an M4. The M4 and the M8 coupe look like mustangs.

I still prefer a plaid's styling. Your plaid is very well done. Basically perfect although i wouldn't get that exterior color. I would be boring and just get white

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

lol honestly i don't like the the M8 coupe styling. I think if i went M8 shopping right now, i would be looking at the GC's. The 2 door coupes look weird. That's why i didn't get an M4. The M4 and the M8 coupe look like mustangs.

I still prefer a plaid's styling. Your plaid is very well done. Basically perfect although i wouldn't get that exterior color. I would be boring and just get white

I have heard that before but I dont see it even in person (mustang vs m8) but one can easily find pictures on the net to argue such a point.

I do wish, even my S63, sounded like a flat plane 6 in the Stang though; oh the noise there.

[Lexura]

Originally Posted by forumlurker

But performance modifications play a huge role to enjoying ICE cars. I wouldn't discount that.

With enough $ and time, ICE cars beat any EVs off the line.

These are former RWD platform owners who moved to Tesla because they are tired of being owned by AWD cars. And then after the switch, they began drinking the cool aid and could not accept that there are platforms stock and modded that can beat their almighty Tesla's.

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by Lexura

These are former RWD platform owners who moved to Tesla because they are tired of being owned by AWD cars. And then after the switch, they began drinking the cool aid and could not accept that there are platforms stock and modded that can beat their almighty Tesla's.

It can beat some Tesla's, not all. Also, a 93 Eagle talon can beat them both with some work. Once a car is modded, all bets are off. If you race the stock X-drive vs the Tesla and made me put money on it. It would be Tesla every time. Hard to beat that consistency. I do not own a Tesla. Just the stock🤑

[2011ninja]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Exactly. The g8x is an ugly ass car. But it is a great platform in terms of performances. I like performance so that's why I got one.

Was it you??? Lol!!!!!!

So I'm about 4th car back 3 lane road. I'm in the left filter lane to get on the hwy.

Left lane is a turn lane to go onto the highway; the two right lanes go straight.

Light is red for the 3 lanes.

There is a Tesla in front left turn only.

All of a sudden light turns green for filter left turn. A V6 Honda Accord jumps from the middle lane and cuts the Tesla off 🤣😂😆.

Tesla driver gets pissed starts chasing after the Honda up the on ramp. I see the Honda weave through traffic and gone.

So MUCH for the 3 seconds of glory at the stop light.

Was hilarious to watch!!! Damn Tesla was on his a$$ up the on ramp then Honda did some dirty lane changes and bye bye Tesla

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by 2011ninja

Was it you??? Lol!!!!!!

So I'm about 4th car back 3 lane road. I'm in the left filter lane to get on the hwy.

Left lane is a turn lane to go onto the highway; the two right lanes go straight.

Light is red for the 3 lanes.

There is a Tesla in front left turn only.

All of a sudden light turns green for filter left turn. A V6 Honda Accord jumps from the middle lane and cuts the Tesla off 🤣😂😆.

Tesla driver gets pissed starts chasing after the Honda up the on ramp. I see the Honda weave through traffic and gone.

So MUCH for the 3 seconds of glory at the stop light.

Was hilarious to watch!!! Damn Tesla was on his a$$ up the on ramp then Honda did some dirty lane changes and bye bye Tesla

That's cause the Tesla dude has Zero driving skills most likely/didn't want to spill his Chi latte and is just an all around p-ssy😂

[hellcat2m4]

Teslas get gapped left and right around here...m3p, model s p100d, everything but plaid. My tuned X3M took so many teslas to gapplebees, it really is comical at this point. A tuned M3/M4 would put that many more bus lengths on those cute little toys, since it weighs less then the X3M.
Don't even get me started on tesla build quality...

[2011ninja]

Originally Posted by hellcat2m4

Teslas get gapped left and right around here...m3p, model s p100d, everything but plaid. My tuned x3M took so many teslas to gapplebees its a joke at this point.
Don't even get me started on build quality...

That's what I like to hear; good stuff!

[bmwdrive]

I test drove the new Model S, not the Plaid. That car is nauseatingly fast even when accelerating at 70mph on the freeway. Maybe it loses steam at 120mph. Who knows. But anywhere in the real world, if you want to go fast in a straight line, it's gonna be tough if not impossible to beat that. It felt even more violent than the Model 3 Performance I drove back-to-back afterwards. I can't imagine the Plaid.

I personally wouldn't buy an ICE car because I want to be the fastest in a straight line. Where an M3/M4 shines and is on a different planet is in driving dynamics. I have no idea how to describe it, but the M sort of dances and is light on its feet whereas the Tesla in a turn feels completely inert. The Tesla is a bit like driving in a bullet train. It's super duper fast but I feel nothing.

[MichaelB1969]

We have a Model 3 (our second one) and it’s honestly one of the best all around cars I’ve owned. No complaints about build quality and both have had zero issues. Once my M3 is here I too will have two M3s! 😁

[MalibuM3]

I own a 2020 Model 3 Performance and a 2022 M3 6MT.
They both live in a peaceful coexistence

Soon, the Tesla has to go and the replacement will be an ICE, probably a new X5.
For me one main reason to drop the Tesla is: that smell of plastic in the interior. I mean, compare this to the odor of the full leather Merino interior from the G80.

[bri1042]

Originally Posted by DM5PAV

I disagree.
I‘ve seen the m3 in the wild and I liked it.

I have always thought model 3 looked like a low rent Porsche imposter.
I greatly dislike the bland styling of Tesla model 3 and I pretty much dig the m3, front and all.

In some colors I really like it a lot.
There is no color I like the model 3 in except for blacked out.

Same here. Owning a controversial nose car has caused me to pause here and there with critical thoughts about other cars, but beauty continues to be in the eye of the beholder.

Another one that I feel like I may be the only person who seriously dislikes it is Rivian, both the R1T and the R1S. My main "chat about cars" friend LOVES the look of the front of them, and I deeply dislike them. He was shocked when I told him how awful I think they look.

Having bought the car I have, I would probably still buy one if it was the right car for me, though, since they look fine from every other angle. So that's pretty close to how I felt about my M3 initially.

[TomDXB]

Had the Tesla M3P for 4 months, bought an M4 Convertible afterwards. IMHO it's an amazing car if you want to get (fast) from A to B. If you want to enjoy the ride from A to B (maybe pass C in between ) better get something else. My main issue was the missing sound and the looks. Also I didn't like the seats that much.

Acceleration from standstill is crazy in the M3P and you don't need any launch control etc. just goes like hell every time. Feels faster to 100km/h than the M4.

Both are amazing cars.