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You're wrong, but that's ok. G87 has cast wheels and the objective data shows it is not really worse-off for that. People think they feel a difference, it's just placebo and usually they changed tires at the same time which always makes a huge difference in feel. It's a heavy street car. No one is going to tell the difference between a centerlock and 5 lug.
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What data are you referring to? I can tell you with absolute certainty that lighter wheels make a massive difference in handling. Lighter wheels have less inertial mass for the dampers to deal with, so the wheels settle quicker. That makes for not only a more comfortable ride but also keeps the tire in contact with the pavement for maximum traction.
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Go buy these for your car then, we'll wait.
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May the rich live lavishly and beyond. We all know this is just so we can flex on porsches.
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It still looks like that?
It's still 3800 lbs? Bro what.
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11-16-2023, 02:53 PM | #32 |
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I had centre locks in my 991.2 911 GTS... Never again on a road car. Nightmare.
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11-16-2023, 03:01 PM | #33 |
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CL’s are a pain in the ass to service and for a street car it’s pointless. Rather just get a lightweight forged 19” square set and it’ll still be lighter than this.
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11-16-2023, 03:40 PM | #35 | |
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I highly doubt you can feel any difference. This is urban legend and there is zero measured data to indicate it. I've swapped plenty of wheel setups for winters and never felt some kind of difference attributable to the wheel and not the tire. Yes, there is a theoretical benefit, but it is very small in reality. Many people pushing this just want to sell you $$$ wheels. |
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11-16-2023, 03:48 PM | #37 |
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Speaking from an undoubtedly very worthy experience that I have from Rennlist forums only - stay away from center lock wheels.
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11-16-2023, 04:11 PM | #38 | |
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If the performance was the same, they wouldn't add cost by putting on lighter wheels on sports cars. Lighter wheels handle better; they provide more direct steering, are more planted, etc. As an example of this check out the Corvette C8 Z06 lap times with and without carbon wheels and see which one is faster. Mind you, the vette that didn't have CF wheels still had light forged wheels. |
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Lol. Good one. So let’s paint this picture. You pull up your 4 series to a GT3. He looks over and is sweating your center lock wheels? I needed a good laugh today. Thanks brother
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The CF wheels for a Z06 are 41 lbs lighter in total than the aluminum wheels. So, 41 lbs of unsprung mass reduction yielded only 1.0-1.5 seconds of improvement. What do you think a barely noticeable reduction in mass from 5 lugs to centerlock on a still-alloy wheel results in?? Absolutely nothing of note and within driver margin of error. Thank you for pointing me to data supporting my argument. |
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Centelock wheels are horrendously stupid for street cars.
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It's fine that you don't see any value in lighter wheels but to say they make no difference, that's where we part ways. |
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