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      02-12-2024, 09:08 PM   #1
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827M need help .

I ordered 827M Forged Replicas. 20x11 on the rear snd 20x9.5 in thr front . Any suggestion on tire size would be really appreciated.
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You’re not x-drive, right?
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You’re not x-drive, right?
X drive, you have to do 20x11 & 20x10 right?
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You can do 9.5 front and 11 out back. What’s going to matter is the diameter size of the tire or height of the tire front to back not exceed more than 1.1% from front to back.
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You can do 9.5 front and 11 out back. What’s going to matter is the diameter size of the tire or height of the tire front to back not exceed more than 1.1% from front to back.
I just sent the seller a message and he told me he could without any issues change the front from 9.5 to 10s so thank yall for the info and help.
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X drive, you have to do 20x11 & 20x10 right?
Is 20x11 too much for the rear with
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From Apex Wheel fitment guide G8X:

Front: 285/30-20 // Rear: 295/30-20
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Some front rubbing can occur with tires that run wide against the inner fender liner at full steering lock.

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From Apex Wheel fitment guide G8X:

Front: 285/30-20 // Rear: 295/30-20
X-Drive Compatible
Some front rubbing can occur with tires that run wide against the inner fender liner at full steering lock.

All Season: Continental Extremecontact DWS 06 + (560TW), Michelin Pilot Sport AS4 (540TW)

Ultra-High Performance Summer: Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 (340TW), Falken Azenis FK510 (300TW)

Max Performance Summer: Michelin Pilot Sport 4S (300TW), Continental Extremecontact Sport (340TW), Bridgestone Potenza Sport (300TW), Yokohama Advan Apex V601 (280TW), Pirelli P Zero (220TW)

Extreme Performance Summer: Michelin Pilot Sport Cup 2 (180TW)
I truly appreciate all the information you have r shared . I was wondering on the offset. Would that help .
Wheel Offset: +18mm Front +18mm Rear
Bolt Pattern: 5x112
Wheel Bore: 66.6
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I truly appreciate all the information you have r shared . I was wondering on the offset. Would that help .
Wheel Offset: +18mm Front +18mm Rear
Bolt Pattern: 5x112
Wheel Bore: 66.6
Front: 20x10" ET8 // Rear: 20x11” ET18
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Front: 20x10" ET8 // Rear: 20x11” ET18
Does my wheel offset make any sense ?
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Curious what the reps cost and why you chose them, considering the OE versions (which are also forged) are only $2500 for a set.
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Curious what the reps cost and why you chose them, considering the OE versions (which are also forged) are only $2500 for a set.
I paid 2500 . Now that you say that ism wondering my self. I wanted 10s on the front and 11 in the rears without any issues.
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Is 20x11 too much for the rear with

20x11 in the back has been done dozens of times. I am on 20x11 without issues.
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I truly appreciate all the information you have r shared . I was wondering on the offset. Would that help .
Wheel Offset: +18mm Front +18mm Rear
Bolt Pattern: 5x112
Wheel Bore: 66.6
This is too much offset and you will have to use spacers to get it right.

20x10 ET12 and 20x11 ET14 is very safe and set the tire look right without issues.
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This is too much offset and you will have to use spacers to get it right.

20x10 ET12 and 20x11 ET14 is very safe and set the tire look right without issues.
The et12 and et14 would not require spacers ?

I was trying to basically get almost stock fitment. I ordered the csl rims in black . The ET on the stock ones are ET20. The ones iam ordering are ET18 .
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This link is basically the fitment bible:
https://apexwheels.com/fitment-guide...-fitment-guide

Apex gives you all the tried and tested combos. You want to look under the Performance Street category where they list your 20x10 f and 20x11 r fitment requiring spacing of ET8 f and ET18 r to fit 285/30-20 f and 295/30-20 r. Bridgestones or Michelins are the sure shot.
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This link is basically the fitment bible:
https://apexwheels.com/fitment-guide...-fitment-guide

Apex gives you all the tried and tested combos. You want to look under the Performance Street category where they list your 20x10 f and 20x11 r fitment requiring spacing of ET8 f and ET18 r to fit 285/30-20 f and 295/30-20 r. Bridgestones or Michelins are the sure shot.
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This link is basically the fitment bible:
https://apexwheels.com/fitment-guide...-fitment-guide
285/35-19 // Rear: 295/30-20

I wonder how this combination would work on stock wheels, they test it on Front: 19x10" ET12 // Rear: 20x11” ET18 wheels.
They mention some rubbing up front on the et12 wheel but stock is et20 so maybe no more rubbing.
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285/35-19 // Rear: 295/30-20

I wonder how this combination would work on stock wheels, they test it on Front: 19x10" ET12 // Rear: 20x11” ET18 wheels.
They mention some rubbing up front on the et12 wheel but stock is et20 so maybe no more rubbing.
I run this setup on my track Apex VS-5RS wheels with Yokohama Advan Neovo AD09s.

19x10 ET12 - 285/35/19
20x11 ET18 - 295/30/20

This works on my M4 without spacers, but as mentioned, does rub the fender liner on full lock.

This tool https://tiregrades.com/tire-anatomy/...for-rim-width/ says that the 285 exceeds the max for a 9.5" wheel.

This tool https://tiresize.com/wheel-offset-calculator/ can help with visualizing the different wheel/tire sizes. Using that tool comparing the 275/35/19 ET20 to 285/35/19 ET12, the outer sidewall is actually closer in than stock, which you would think would keep it from rubbing on the fender liner.
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Thank u all for the help.
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This tool https://tiregrades.com/tire-anatomy/...for-rim-width/ says that the 285 exceeds the max for a 9.5" wheel.
I was running a 275 on a 9" rim before without any issues for like 15 years, if that worked then a 285 on a 9.5" will also work.
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