10-17-2019, 09:43 PM | #925 |
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The general rule in any good business arrangement is it is almost always cheaper to retain existing customers and clientele than it is to acquire new ones. BMW needs to be really careful right now. They're already losing a lot of 3 series buyers to Tesla so they can't afford to gamble like this on the upcoming 4 series.
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sorry but there is nothing attractive about the G chassis M3/4 ... at least by looking at these renderings.
and while it is subjective... the Lexus designs are just as fugly for those that are praising them. The irony is that the G chassis 3 series really do look more like Toyotas than BMWs. Had a loaner 3 series and... it looks like a Camry. BMW needs to go back to their origins... and stay there. I get the cars have to change, but the grills and the JDM designs just aren't looking good.. my 2 cents. |
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11-11-2019, 02:54 AM | #928 | |
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Going to be interesting how this plays out in the US and European markets, does the kudos of owning an M car (that will very likely be excellent to drive) outweigh the ugliness of the car.
Going to be a difficult trick to pull off when the market is switching to SUV's/ hybrids/ EV's and the competition is so fierce. |
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11-11-2019, 08:12 AM | #930 | |
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I'm in that demographic that grew up in the 70/80's with a father who always drove a Ford whilst I dreamed of BMWs so as soon as I could afford them I jumped straight in and after 20 years and 12 of them you could say I'm starting to drift in my views after 5 straight M cars I've now gone upstairs to the 7er, (pre LCI) however the LCI 7er to me looks fantastic it's a massive degree of change but I think it works. Whereas many of my demographic don't and have recoiled at it. For me M cars have always been subtly beefed up versions of a fairly sedate looking but handsome base car, the F80 M3 was to my eyes quite a departure in terms of its visual drama especially if added spacers and the HAS kit, it looked mean and moody in a way that previous M cars just didn't. The F8* series have been a success and I think we've all loved the more pumped up nature of these M cars, so perhaps this is a natural step (if a groin stretching one) to a car with much more road presence (see the LCI 7er for details) I think it's going to be much more expensive as well and therefore that demographic will demand more "show" for their "dough". But to your original point, as you say it's a big risk but then again a faint heart never fucked a pig, as they say in the rural states....
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11-12-2019, 12:27 AM | #931 |
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Next car, unless they fuck up and proceed with THAT fugly grill
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I find those grilles to be hideous. I am on my second F83 (2015 an 2018). When the lease runs out on my 2018 I seriously doubt that I will lease another M4 convertible for two reasons - no more retractable hard top and that hideous grille.
I will likely move to Aston Martin.
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Here's another shot of the new radical M3 grill
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welp, looks like im buying out my F80 at the end of the lease
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Correction: Once they become big, they'll only become bigger.
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It's already beginning. The next generation Mercedes-AMG C63 is already rumored to be going hybrid with an electric powertrain coupled to a tiny 4-cyl engine. That's one foot out the door and fully electric is likely in the cards for the following generation. BMW will likely follow suit especially with the climate change concerns gaining momentum, and the likelihood is not good that the oversized grille trend will survive past the G8x generation. It would just be an oversized "fake vent"! |
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