[HudsonHornett]

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https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/bmw/m4-csl

Makes for a good read - ride and handling section particularly interesting.

[KKSigs]

Originally Posted by HudsonHornett

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/bmw/m4-csl

Makes for a good read - ride and handling section particularly interesting.

Thanks for sharing!

[DocWeatherington]

Plus 2 good read

[________]

Guy dedicates a few paragraphs to “turbo lag” and yet he doesn’t know what turbo lag is and uses it to describe how lazy the car is under certain RPM.

Not sure what to take from someone trying to drive a car and explain how it drives it they don’t fully comprehend how the engine works…

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by Onesie

Guy dedicates a few paragraphs to “turbo lag” and yet he doesn’t know what turbo lag is and uses it to describe how lazy the car is under certain RPM.

Not sure what to take from someone trying to drive a car and explain how it drives it they don’t fully comprehend how the engine works…

Unless an absolute bomb of turbo lag comes in after break-in, the car has no actual feeling of turbo lag. The guys reviewing these cars in the UK all want it to be a GT3 or an e46 CSL or something.

[Higgs Boson]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

Unless an absolute bomb of turbo lag comes in after break-in, the car has no actual feeling of turbo lag. The guys reviewing these cars in the UK all want it to be a GT3 or an e46 CSL or something.

Modern jounalists constantly mistake drive by wire throttle body tuning lag for actual turbo lag.

Not to mention cars like a GT3 have no low end torque that never truly hits boost, just builds gradually up from low torque to some amount of horsepower.

Love me some NA but some of these guys need to lay off the turbo lag thing until they have driven a car with real turbo lag, like a 911 turbo from the 80s.

[PackPride85]

Originally Posted by Higgs Boson

Modern jounalists constantly mistake drive by wire throttle body tuning lag for actual turbo lag.

Not to mention cars like a GT3 have no low end torque that never truly hits boost, just builds gradually up from low torque to some amount of horsepower.

Love me some NA but some of these guys need to lay off the turbo lag thing until they have driven a car with real turbo lag, like a 911 turbo from the 80s.

From the dyno's I've seen the CSL does hit peak torque a few hundred rpm later than a regular m3/m4. About 500 rpm later than s55 cars.

[Ilikemike]

Originally Posted by PackPride85

From the dyno's I've seen the CSL does hit peak torque a few hundred rpm later than a regular m3/m4. About 500 rpm later than s55 cars.

Hey guys, maybe the M5 CS set the bar too high…damn, where's my beer!!🍺🍺🍺

[________]

Originally Posted by PackPride85

From the dyno's I've seen the CSL does hit peak torque a few hundred rpm later than a regular m3/m4. About 500 rpm later than s55 cars.

So?

[TractionControlDelete]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

Unless an absolute bomb of turbo lag comes in after break-in, the car has no actual feeling of turbo lag. The guys reviewing these cars in the UK all want it to be a GT3 or an e46 CSL or something.

I suppose the E46 CSL comparison is unavoidable but still seems unreasonable - if cars 20 years ago had the same type of regulations and requirements as modern cars then they'd be much different. Good review overall though.

[xXMPowerXx]

My M4 has no discernible turbo lag.

I can’t imagine a “more” tuned engine having turbo lag.

[MadBimmeRad]

Thanks for sharing mate

There is only one simple and undeniable fact with the M4CSL: you either got it, or you didn't - here's to those thousand who did 👏👏👏

[HudsonHornett]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

Thanks for sharing mate

There is only one simple and undeniable fact with the M4CSL: you either got it, or you didn't - here's to those thousand who did 👏👏👏

Absolutely! To be honest the words from the Autocar full test don't match the score, should be at least 4.5 stars.

But the review that Scully posted was absolutely sensational! That guy loved it!

[ScullyD]

Took another drive today, up to 388 miles. I wouldn't get hung up on reviews, unless you think it will impact the car's value. But honestly, these cars tend to depreciate anyways (M5 CSs have started to). The car is fantastic to drive even on PS4s, and quite a monster.

I view it more of a recipe akin to the CLK63/C63 AMG black, Jaguar Project 8, and Alfa GTAm (ie slushbox, RWD torque monsters). We either don't get those cars in the US or get them compromised (CLK63 black without buckets, C63 black with sunroof only, Jaguar project 8 with sunroof only, Alfa not at all).

Really enjoying it, not sure I'd prefer another car than it at the moment. I'd like to drive an M5 CS back to back with it to be sure.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

Took another drive today, up to 388 miles. I wouldn't get hung up on reviews, unless you think it will impact the car's value. But honestly, these cars tend to depreciate anyways (M5 CSs have started to). The car is fantastic to drive even on PS4s, and quite a monster.

I view it more of a recipe akin to the CLK63/C63 AMG black, Jaguar Project 8, and Alfa GTAm (ie slushbox, RWD torque monsters). We either don't get those cars in the US or get them compromised (CLK63 black without buckets, C63 black with sunroof only, Jaguar project 8 with sunroof only, Alfa not at all).

Really enjoying it, not sure I'd prefer another car than it at the moment. I'd like to drive an M5 CS back to back with it to be sure.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

It's the spirit of BMW which make us park perpendicular to the grain of the car park

🤣🤣🤣🤣 I love it

[clutchdj]

Good read relative to what’s out there. TH has the best vid on it. More comprehensive than what some of the journalists are all kind of saying.

[dezzracer]

Originally Posted by Onesie

Guy dedicates a few paragraphs to "turbo lag" and yet he doesn't know what turbo lag is and uses it to describe how lazy the car is under certain RPM.

Not sure what to take from someone trying to drive a car and explain how it drives it they don't fully comprehend how the engine works…

Perhaps this explains it better

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by dezzracer

perhaps this explains it better

🤣🤣🤣 ^^^^^ 🤣🤣🤣