[THEROK]

Originally Posted by Sublime00

Why would the asian market like it?

I'm pretty sure the dislike of the new aesthetic is proportionately equal regardless of demographics.

Bingo. The micro aggression is predictable and honestly sad as most of these people making such ignorant assumptions have passports collecting dust if they have one at all. Lmao

USA is still by far the leading market in M sales. It's not a China thing. It's a rich are getting younger thing. M is moving upmarket price wise and down the age range demo wise. Look at the crowd around it. A lot of young bucks hangry for a piece o dat M Perf and it'll be the same all around the globe and on sm.

So I say if you go G8X go unabashedly big and get the entire kit including the exhaust. Lower it on some black HRE 300 classics and it's a SEMA exhibit contender, ig likes whore straight outta Germany.

[thurston]

Wheels are great. Rest of it is incredibly ostentatious to me.

[WWM3]

Originally Posted by THEROK

Bingo. The micro aggression is predictable and honestly sad as most of these people making such ignorant assumptions have passports collecting dust if they have one at all. Lmao

USA is still by far the leading market in M sales. It's not a China thing. It's a rich are getting younger thing. M is moving upmarket price wise and down the age range demo wise. Look at the crowd around it. A lot of young bucks hangry for a piece o dat M Perf and it'll be the same all around the globe and on sm.

So I say if you go G8X go unabashedly big and get the entire kit including the exhaust. Lower it on some black HRE 300 classics and it's a SEMA exhibit contender, ig likes whore straight outta Germany.

China is the fastest growing and most important market for BMW. It would be ignorant of BMW to not keep that market in mind during product development.

[MKParris]

Seems like BMW is trying to make EVERYONE hate the looks of this car.


It seems like someone took a Civic Type R and put bmw badges and a figly grill on it.

[annabellapizza]

Originally Posted by THEROK

Bingo. The micro aggression is predictable and honestly sad as most of these people making such ignorant assumptions have passports collecting dust if they have one at all. Lmao

USA is still by far the leading market in M sales. It's not a China thing. It's a rich are getting younger thing. M is moving upmarket price wise and down the age range demo wise. Look at the crowd around it. A lot of young bucks hangry for a piece o dat M Perf and it'll be the same all around the globe and on sm.

So I say if you go G8X go unabashedly big and get the entire kit including the exhaust. Lower it on some black HRE 300 classics and it's a SEMA exhibit contender, ig likes whore straight outta Germany.

lol "micro aggression"? You must work for buzzfeed. Im just saying that the asian market def has a liking for big grills like the spindle from lexus. BMW is trying to appeal to them- just like they did with the first huge 7 series grill around 2019ish

[ghaffari46]

Damn covid!
I miss auto shows!

[THEROK]

Originally Posted by annabellapizza

lol "micro aggression"? You must work for buzzfeed. Im just saying that the asian market def has a liking for big grills like the spindle from lexus. BMW is trying to appeal to them- just like they did with the first huge 7 series grill around 2019ish

Hey SeanWRT, you think this dude can point out on a map where and what "Asia" is and show us how BMW managers are perhaps applying AI/ML to determine that indeed big grills on two low volume models in the M3/4 and 7 series = revenue out of "Asia?"

And then look into his noggin to see how one conflates the LC500 big arse grill to the G8X's?

Wtf

BTW, Shanghai, awesome city. Home of the big grill lovers because you know Asia Republic according to some. Lmao

[SeanWRT]

Here is a reality check to those who think big grille is what BMW is trying to win China with: People here in Shanghai (the biggest M market throughout the nation) don't appreciate it. Neither does the rest of China, and Asia.

I'm a bit more familiar with different cultures than average and know that in Asia enthusiasts look at M the same way the European and North America do. Get the fact straight if you will please.

However, the 5er, 7er and X7er are welcoming place for the big grille (as long as they're not too big) which looks to me a consensus worldwide.

[junx]

Why

[OSee]

Originally Posted by annabellapizza

lol "micro aggression"? You must work for buzzfeed. Im just saying that the asian market def has a liking for big grills like the spindle from lexus. BMW is trying to appeal to them- just like they did with the first huge 7 series grill around 2019ish

Yes. All of Asia loves Japanese cars.

[thaalrasha]

Originally Posted by THEROK

Bingo. The micro aggression is predictable and honestly sad as most of these people making such ignorant assumptions have passports collecting dust if they have one at all. Lmao

USA is still by far the leading market in M sales. It's not a China thing. It's a rich are getting younger thing. M is moving upmarket price wise and down the age range demo wise. Look at the crowd around it. A lot of young bucks hangry for a piece o dat M Perf and it'll be the same all around the globe and on sm.

So I say if you go G8X go unabashedly big and get the entire kit including the exhaust. Lower it on some black HRE 300 classics and it's a SEMA exhibit contender, ig likes whore straight outta Germany.

Looking at how "everyone seems to love it in the flesh better than photos" comments in the US forums I think BMW got it right... the grill was for the US market in mind... and it worked.

[Sublime00]

Originally Posted by thurston

Wheels are great. Rest of it is incredibly ostentatious to me.

Wheels like that would be nice on a car that's a bit more subtle in styling, where one of the only things that is ostentatious are bronze/gold wheels (like the m2CS).

This entire car is the opposite of subtle.

And canards....really? What in the actual fuck. I can't wait for this stupid trend to die out.

[NathObeaN]

My goodness. My eyes. Why do I get the impression the current M Performance designers must wear huge chunky gold watches and low-hanging medallions...

[rgrovr]

Front Lip +

Wheels +++

All else = DAFUQ??

[cedchung]

What an abomination
This is getting worse and worse.

[F80DK]

Originally Posted by ghaffari46

Damn covid!
I miss auto shows!

Me too. Last IAA in Frankfurt was a disaster, though. Too to many manufacturers trying to be political correct! Geneva is another thing!

[SteveChester]

The exhaust and rear wing are terrible. Why would you put that exhaust on a M car!

[dialogical]

Originally Posted by Io

Jesus, what an abomination. OK, that’s enough. From now, I stop considering these new M3 and M4 as BMWs, even if the S58 is a pure gem. These cars redefine the word ‘ugly’. They are alien, Lovecraftian, a cosmic horror from another planet...

Pretty strange take to hear someone on a performance car enthusiast board say that performance doesn't matter.

[JohnBucurE92]

As a 22 year old I can attest to the fact that everyone within my circle (-2 years and +2 years) love the grille design. It has become obvious to me that this is the direction for BMW. Appeal to a younger audience. I feel as if I'm the one within my group who's taken longer to come to terms with it, my first car being an e92 6 years ago. I will always see the e46-f80 generations as the holy grail of BMW design. But I have to admit that the grille has grown on me, although slower than my similarly aged counterparts. I love it. I don't believe BMW would design a car specifically for the "Asian market," instead take a more universal and uniform approach to just staying "younger." This is a better alternative than what happened to Buick and Cadillac in the past before the GM renaissance- growing older in design philosophy with their customer base. The future of sustainability is favor and accessibility by and for everyone.

[Masander]

Originally Posted by JohnBucurE92

As a 22 year old I can attest to the fact that everyone within my circle (-2 years and +2 years) love the grille design. It has become obvious to me that this is the direction for BMW. Appeal to a younger audience. I feel as if I'm the one within my group who's taken longer to come to terms with it, my first car being an e92 6 years ago. I will always see the e46-f80 generations as the holy grail of BMW design. But I have to admit that the grille has grown on me, although slower than my similarly aged counterparts. I love it. I don't believe BMW would design a car specifically for the "Asian market," instead take a more universal and uniform approach to just staying "younger." This is a better alternative than what happened to Buick and Cadillac in the past before the GM renaissance- growing older in design philosophy with their customer base. The future of sustainability is favor and accessibility by and for everyone.

I will always see the e30-e46 generations as the holy grail of BMW design.

Fixed.

[dialogical]

Originally Posted by Masander

I will always see the e30-e46 generations as the holy grail of BMW design.

Fixed.

The e46 M3 is the best looking BMW ever made, and it isn't close.

[h_bakken]

Bad ass machines.