[deathmetal666]

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Question for the manual owners…when cruising in 6th at say 85 mph…
If the engine is in ‘comfort’…where do your rpms sit?
I assume ‘comfort’ will have lower rpms than ‘sport’ engine.

Im about to order a g80 manual…and a little concerned long road trips will get annoying with the rpms sitting really high.

How is the gas mileage with freeway cruising in 6th?

[Nate.G82]

The longest I've driven in my G82 is about 6 hours one way. I drove the entire way in the most aggressive settings, I usually only put the car in comfort when I'm parking in tight spots where I have to be careful. Although, my tolerance for aggressive settings is relatively high.

I digress.

I have tested comfort and sport plus to see the difference at cruising speed (70-80mph). Engine settings do not change rpm like a magic wand. The more noticeable difference with comfort setting is that the valves are shut and ASD is turned off, so it's pretty quiet. These cars are designed around sitting above 3k rpm anyways so I wouldn't worry about it. if you're always at 5k rpm then yeah... I'd call it abusing the engine. But for day to day cruising? 3k rpm is fine, and you're gonna love the immediate response around that range when you need to pass someone.

Cruising at around 70mph exactly, I've pulled around 30mpg in sport plus. Pretty good for these types of vehicles.

[jimbethesda]

Originally Posted by Nate.G82

The longest I've driven in my G82 is about 6 hours one way. I drove the entire way in the most aggressive settings, I usually only put the car in comfort when I'm parking in tight spots where I have to be careful. Although, my tolerance for aggressive settings is relatively high.

I digress.

I have tested comfort and sport plus to see the difference at cruising speed (70-80mph). I'm usually at 3k rpm in that range for sport plus, comfort lowers it marginally... maybe by about 500 rpm? The more noticeable difference is that the valves are shut and ASD is turned off, so it's pretty quiet. These cars are designed around sitting above 3k rpm anyways so I wouldn't worry about it. if you're always at 5k rpm than yeah... I'd call it abusing the engine. But for day to day cruising? 3k rpm is fine, and you're gonna love the immediate response around that range when you need to pass someone.

Are you sure about the RPM difference between settings? RPM should only be a function of gear and speed. Engine setting changes accelerator peddle sensitivity and exhaust. Not sure how it would impact RPM.

[vasillalov]

Forgive my ignorance here, but how is software able to adjust engine speed aka rpms in a manual transmission setup? Is the software able to change the drive ratio in the diff somehow?

[Nate.G82]

Originally Posted by jimbethesda

Are you sure about the RPM difference between settings? RPM should only be a function of gear and speed. Engine setting changes accelerator peddle sensitivity and exhaust. Not sure how it would impact RPM.

Let me make an edit, you're right. I'm still a little tired lol

I think during my testing I was seeing what pedal pressure netted me the best MPG, so that's probably why I accidentally mixed it with engine settings.

[spaceage]

Originally Posted by deathmetal666

Question for the manual owners…when cruising in 6th at say 85 mph…
If the engine is in ‘comfort’…where do your rpms sit?
I assume ‘comfort’ will have lower rpms than ‘sport’ engine.

Im about to order a g80 manual…and a little concerned long road trips will get annoying with the rpms sitting really high.

How is the gas mileage with freeway cruising in 6th?

It’s about 3K at 85mph. Haven’t checked mileage, not important to me.

[Achtung_M3]

It's a hair over 3k at 85MPH. I drive between Houston and Austin, about 2.5 hours, most of which is in 6th in that RPM range. With the OEM exhaust, it does not bother me at all.

[jimbethesda]

Originally Posted by vasillalov

Forgive my ignorance here, but how is software able to adjust engine speed aka rpms in a manual transmission setup? Is the software able to change the drive ratio in the diff somehow?

It isn't.

[2011ninja]

The settings change throttle sensitivity

You can get 30 MPG if you cruise between 70 and 75

[deathmetal666]

Thanks for the feedback everyone.
Was going to order a compx…but was able to do a short test drive yesterday of a manual yesterday. Wasn’t allowed to take it on the freeway.

All of complaints about the manual had turned me off to the idea…but after driving it…it was really quite easy to drive.
Much better than my e92 manual. I’ve also owned a C5 and Cayman S manual. If the g80 was anything like those manuals…I would have passed. Way too much work.
But the g80 was smooth and easy and just notchy enough. 1st to 2nd was a little tricky but nothing too worrisome. Clutch was easy. The clutch in the C5 and Cayamn felt like leg presses.

[FC4]

1st and 6th gears are far too short for my liking but I’m still happy with the manual. I’ve driven it from SF to LA, and while stock engine/exhaust noise is not an issue, it just feels odd cruising at 3500-4000 RPM.

[wtwo3]

Originally Posted by deathmetal666

Thanks for the feedback everyone.
Was going to order a compx…but was able to do a short test drive yesterday of a manual yesterday. Wasn’t allowed to take it on the freeway.

All of complaints about the manual had turned me off to the idea…but after driving it…it was really quite easy to drive.
Much better than my e92 manual. I’ve also owned a C5 and Cayman S manual. If the g80 was anything like those manuals…I would have passed. Way too much work.
But the g80 was smooth and easy and just notchy enough. 1st to 2nd was a little tricky but nothing too worrisome. Clutch was easy. The clutch in the C5 and Cayamn felt like leg presses.

Glad to hear this feedback as I've ordered a 6MT blindly without ever having driven a 6MT G8x. And yes I was also a little concerned hearing everyone's complaints. Truthfully though, I'm coming from a history of owning nothing but automatics, so I don't have a comparison point to assess if this would be a good or subpar transmission anyway.

[Anderson11]

Originally Posted by FC4

1st and 6th gears are far too short for my liking but I’m still happy with the manual. I’ve driven it from SF to LA, and while stock engine/exhaust noise is not an issue, it just feels odd cruising at 3500-4000 RPM.

I had a M2C with a manual and in 6th gear the RPMs were a tad over 3000. Going 80 and taking your foot off the gas on a flat stretch you could feel the car braking. I loved the M2C but that combined with 4 hellish rides creeping through DC and NYC with a clutch I decided to give the M4C a try. Not the same but the M4C will be a lot more comfortable on long trips.

[TK3pedal]

Compared to a lot of cars that run very low RPM at freeway speeds these days, 6th does run higher RPMs than you would expect. But, the car is made for it and it isn't loud if the exhaust isn't opened (no change in RPM). If anything, it has kept me at a bit of a lower speed on the highway only because I feel like I'm going fast with the RPMs up. That's actually a good thing -- for my license.

The manual is so much more engaging to drive. I recommend it.

[geko29]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

Glad to hear this feedback as I've ordered a 6MT blindly without ever having driven a 6MT G8x. And yes I was also a little concerned hearing everyone's complaints. Truthfully though, I'm coming from a history of owning nothing but automatics, so I don't have a comparison point to assess if this would be a good or subpar transmission anyway.

I was looking at ordering blind also, but was fortunate enough to find a 2022 with 20k miles in stock at one of my local dealers, so was actually able to take a test drive before making my deposit. I didn't find it stiff or rubbery at all, as I've seen in several reviews of low-mileage cars. The reports of it loosening up and becoming more natural after ~5k miles must be true.

All told, it's not the very best manual out there--certainly doesn't feel as precise as the Civic Type R, for example--but it's quite good nonetheless. High clutch engagement point takes a minute to get used to (and can probably be helped with a clutch stop), but it's extremely easy to drive casually or quickly.

[2011ninja]

I'm at 9,000 miles.

The transmission is BUTTER,

In bumper to bumper traffic I modulate the clutch only.

Casual driving it borderline an automatic if you shift below 2500 rpm.

When you decide to push it, it's like a 4 cylinder Honda prelude. It revs to redline like warm water.

ZERO issues for me…

Eco mode lazy shifting feels like an automatic.

Sports plus it's a straight up race car.

[vbb]

I've had a lot of manual cars. While the S2000 probably takes the title for the best 6MT I've ever driven, the manual in the G82 is definitely the best "daily-driveable" manual. It's very easy. It took me about a week to get used to the higher rpms when cruising in 6th gear, especially coming from a V8 with very tall final gears, but I don't even notice it anymore.

[Eddie2315]

Originally Posted by deathmetal666

Question for the manual owners…when cruising in 6th at say 85 mph…
If the engine is in ‘comfort’…where do your rpms sit?
I assume ‘comfort’ will have lower rpms than ‘sport’ engine.

Im about to order a g80 manual…and a little concerned long road trips will get annoying with the rpms sitting really high.

How is the gas mileage with freeway cruising in 6th?

to be honest if you listen to music at a normal level and have it in comfort with stock exhaust you won't hear much at all. i have catless downpipes and a single midpipe and in comfort mode going 85 it is still pretty quiet.

[bri1042]

One perspective for you:

My SO has a 530e, and that's what he spends most of his highway time in. He thought riding in my M2C was awful due to all of the ways that it was louder and stiffer of a ride at highway speeds. I put an Akrapovic exhaust on it and his annoyance levels rose significantly.

The move to my 6MT G80 reduced his displeasure at not being pampered by his own car significantly thanks to the much more agreeable ride and the significantly better seats and other interior improvements. He still sometimes complains about highway noise, but he is not complaining about engine noise at highway cruising speeds. He has mentioned that he can hear it more than his car (hah) but the remaining complaints are road noise from the tires more than anything else.

I've run the car in quiet mode with the Sound Control button and it's pretty quiet, except for the expected noise from PS4S's. I don't really enjoy quiet mode...so I only bothered once or twice.

All in all, my pampered SO is much happier in this car with a 6MT than he was in my DCT M2C with either exhaust I had on it.

[meechy6ix0]

Originally Posted by bri1042

One perspective for you:

My SO has a 530e, and that's what he spends most of his highway time in. He thought riding in my M2C was awful due to all of the ways that it was louder and stiffer of a ride at highway speeds. I put an Akrapovic exhaust on it and his annoyance levels rose significantly.

The move to my 6MT G80 reduced his displeasure at not being pampered by his own car significantly thanks to the much more agreeable ride and the significantly better seats and other interior improvements. He still sometimes complains about highway noise, but he is not complaining about engine noise at highway cruising speeds. He has mentioned that he can hear it more than his car (hah) but the remaining complaints are road noise from the tires more than anything else.

I've run the car in quiet mode with the Sound Control button and it's pretty quiet, except for the expected noise from PS4S's. I don't really enjoy quiet mode...so I only bothered once or twice.

All in all, my pampered SO is much happier in this car with a 6MT than he was in my DCT M2C with either exhaust I had on it.

"my pampered SO" haha. Guess I'm lucky my SO doesn't complain much.

[MCM4]

This will be of no bearing really, but I noticed yesterday my 6MT CT5-V Blacking cruises at 79-80MPH at 2k RPM in 6th gear. And a blip of the throttle and she pulls immediately. God Bless superchargers.