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There is still a lag from when you hit the paddle to when the shift executes |
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I only notice this during WOT and near redline, which is the opposite of a dual clutch. It's almost like the ZF8 shifts faster when @ 1/2 redline. But for example, 6500 RPM, shift lights come on, if I shift at 6900, I hit the rev limiter, so how is it "slowing down?" Seems like the system doesn't register the shift IMO Last edited by mthreesixty3; 06-16-2022 at 07:39 AM.. |
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There are two elements that come into play regarding the stress on the clutches: torque and rpm drop. The higher the rpm shift point, the bigger the rpm drop going into the next gear and the more slip the clutch needs to endure, hence the greater the power reduction and the longer the shift time.
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IMO the only major advantage my X3MC has is its rear cargo height so my dog doesn't have to crawl around in the boot and is able to fully sit up. Driving dynamics would obviously go to the M3 Touring making it arguably the best do it all BMW. Big sadface I won't be able to enjoy this in the US but looking forward to picking one up in Greece.
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It bothers me that the X5M and X3M do not have a tow hitch in the US. How do folks carry bikes around or tow? There was a thread where someone made changes to get this working, but it should come out of the factory as an option. What's the point of an SUV that you can't use, as a utility.
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06-17-2022, 01:55 AM | #118 | |
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I am really starting to believe we dont drive the same software version of the ZF8 tranny. And also, yes, the DCT was really bulletproof and could handle lots of torque. Only reason BMW decided for the ZF8 was better daily drivabilities and the option to bolt an xDrive system on it.
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Yes indeed but minus the hideous iDrive 8 screen...
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06-17-2022, 10:25 AM | #120 | |
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Look @19:41 for the lag between when he shifts and it executes - he's able to take his hand fully off after shift and it STILL hasn't executed. Here @12:38 he starts talking about it |
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06-17-2022, 11:39 AM | #121 |
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Is this a station wagon m3?
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I know the X-drive has the DSG fart on the upshift which I like! |
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They probably did. I got a big software update for the M4 while doing the break-in service. They didnt tell me the specifics, but the shifts felt different since then. Also, the xdrive has the minor dsg farts, yes. I would assume that everyone with a comp can get that new software version?
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Okay but seriously… what is the hype about a performance station wagon? Like what is the draw here over the standard sedan/coupe? I don’t get it
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Considering the only long roof performance car available in the US is the RS6 (please correct me if I'm wrong), it's unsaturated market. While the take on the Touring would be small I'm sure, it would still be cool to have the option. I remember spending a week with a CTS-V wagon back in 2011 and loving that thing. Something about having the utility of an SUV with sportscar performance just ticks so many boxes for me.
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You need to understand that driving for me isn't about speed, or being coddled by an automatic in traffic…. it's about engagement and feeling the machine and controlling the machine. I don't need to save 1 second of lap time with an auto. I am not an F1 driver… if I want that experience, I get it during race weekends in my shifter kart, or one of the 15 weekends/year I take the M3 to the track. It is the very reason I fly my aerobatic aircraft on my time off from the airlines…. there is no feel with automation. |
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i went to the shop to buy the M40i (X3), it was the car i need - gear, 3 kids, dog etc but i walked out with the M340i touring. why? - X3 felt heavy like a bus vs more nimble - handled like a truck vs sports car - seating position upright/bench vs relaxed/sculpted seats - harsh ride (stiffer suspension to support the truck) so i drive the Touring, ordered a model Y for the family. |
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