Introducing the 2022 BMW M3 and M4 Competition xDrive

OF Hero · 04-19-2021, 06:10 PM

Are the black alloy wheels the only other option? No bicolor or orbit grey?

Poochie · 04-19-2021, 06:16 PM

$4,100 for AWD.. 🤕 Ouch..

I'm not going to get into a debate on whether AWD is a necessity or a luxury (it is), since its already been debated here ad nauseam but just say that from a business perspective, I totally understand why BMW now offers a AWD option on the G8X, their bread-and-butter model of the M line-up; it helps move units.

Here's their take on the then-pending AWD option, on the upcoming F22 2 Series, way back in 2013:

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Sedan_Clan · 04-19-2021, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nvez

I don't really care about the badge at all. AWD is the difference of being able to buy an M4 and daily drive it in a city like Montreal with all of our snow and not.

I'll happily pay that to get a nice fun AWD car, that's been the only reason that's stopping me. I don't want RWD headaches in our messy winters. This is *huge* value for those living in places that don't get beautiful weather all year long.

People have been asking for an AWD M3 since as far back as I can remember (...that, and a wagon). BMW is now providing both. Kudos to that!

Sedan_Clan · 04-19-2021, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OF Hero

Are the black alloy wheels the only other option? No bicolor or orbit grey?

Black isn't the only option.

XsltAnalyst · 04-19-2021, 06:47 PM

I wonder if the xdrive modulates brakes even with everything off (DSC off, Traction Control off). As long as it's fun to drive then I guess that's all that matters. Can't wait for 4WD powerslides from Chris Harris

Also does this particular system sends extra power to outer rear wheel to help the car in corners?

kamichael · 04-19-2021, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Remonster

As a current Model 3 Performance driver......I'm counting down the days until my Tesla lease ends so I can get into another M3.

After my previous E92 and F80 M3s, the Tesla got boring quickly and its comfort / ease as a daily driver is not enough to stop me from daydreaming about another M3 in my life.

I am in the identical scenario and completely agree. I had 2 E90 M3's and subsequently 2 F80 M3's, then moved to a Model 3 Performance which I still own. Although quieter, very comfortable and a great daily driver - the Tesla is not exciting to own or drive. The fact that it's electric gives it a nod that the G80 M3 cannot offer. That said, I'm enticed to return to BMW with the G80. I am wrestling with this decision as I feel I'd be moving backwards by returning to an internal combustion engine.

dr_frankfurter · 04-19-2021, 07:04 PM

Considering the RWD weighed less than BMW claimed, this might be slightly lighter than the posted figures. So, if I lose 20 pounds, then that's only an 80 lb increase in weight, lowering the figures down even more. All I have to do is save that $4K markup by not eating solid food until it arrives in dealers, and I should be ready to put in an order for this thing.

snareman · 04-19-2021, 08:36 PM

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Beautiful world map you have there did you make it yourself snareman ?

Oh, no. I'm definitely not that skilled. The thing is AMAZING though. here's a vid I did on it.

F80SRT · 04-19-2021, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mako

Well there is nothing to compare it to as M5/M8 and X3M/X4M are all AWD only.

Compared to Porsche $4,000 is cheap

as for the color I am guessing Frozen Port on the blue. I know the blue looks glossy but when has BMW ever launched something like this with an individual color shown?
HDR overload on all the pics, hate that.

I guess compared to adding the more standard xDrive ($2k) on other models it's rich.

OF Hero · 04-19-2021, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Black isn't the only option.

Cool, I assume the order guide will be essentially the same as the RWD models and maybe the press release was just an omission? (they only list the black alloys as other available options)

PVC · 04-20-2021, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by kamichael

I am in the identical scenario and completely agree. I had 2 E90 M3's and subsequently 2 F80 M3's, then moved to a Model 3 Performance which I still own. Although quieter, very comfortable and a great daily driver - the Tesla is not exciting to own or drive. The fact that it's electric gives it a nod that the G80 M3 cannot offer. That said, I'm enticed to return to BMW with the G80. I am wrestling with this decision as I feel I'd be moving backwards by returning to an internal combustion engine.

I'm actually considering Model 3 Performance when my lease runs out. I once sat in a Model 3 Performance and the speed was intoxicating. Does it get old after a while?

Kevin_The_Clean1 · 04-20-2021, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Transfer

Hot damn!

Less hot is the $4100 premium. Oh well I'm still on board.

I will gladly pay for it so the the S58 can finally drive all 4 wheels...

V-Eight · 04-20-2021, 04:31 AM

The color of the M3........isn't it the skyscraper grey? It doesn't seem to be the frozen dark grey, it's too light to be it.

TheStanman · 04-20-2021, 05:28 AM

It's odd that RWD mode requires stability control to be off. It'd be cool if you could effectively turn it into the standard non-AWD model.

It's not like the M5 that was only developed in AWD form. They have all the electronics tuned for RWD with stability control on the G8X.

CanAutM3 · 04-20-2021, 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by XsltAnalyst

I wonder if the xdrive modulates brakes even with everything off (DSC off, Traction Control off). As long as it's fun to drive then I guess that's all that matters. Can't wait for 4WD powerslides from Chris Harris

Also does this particular system sends extra power to outer rear wheel to help the car in corners?

The G8X has an electronically locking rear differential, not a torque vectoring one.

Waterbelly · 04-20-2021, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

I will gladly pay for it so the the S58 can finally drive all 4 wheels...

It's been driving all four wheels in my X3M for 18 months now...

Ibiza · 04-20-2021, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by whatnotsomuchf80

What is faster than this in a straight line for the price when tuned? $80k AWD car + $10k in tuning mods= unbelievable numbers. You'd need to spend at least $160k to get close.

Issue is the tune, as the Bosch ECU Mag1 has a factory installed special encryption chip to prevent tunes. It's going to be a while .....

aford · 04-20-2021, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by TheStanman

It's odd that RWD mode requires stability control to be off. It'd be cool if you could effectively turn it into the standard non-AWD model.

It's not like the M5 that was only developed in AWD form. They have all the electronics tuned for RWD with stability control on the G8X.

Agree. I'd like to see the option at this price increase to have the same rear wheel only options as the RWD model.

mirob · 04-20-2021, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Kevin_The_Clean1

I will gladly pay for it so the the S58 can finally drive all 4 wheels...

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Originally Posted by Waterbelly

It's been driving all four wheels in my X3M for 18 months now...

He has one as well (according to his signature) and that's what makes this funny and confusing at the same time.

'Cane · 04-20-2021, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by V-Eight

The color of the M3........isn't it the skyscraper grey? It doesn't seem to be the frozen dark grey, it's too light to be it.

I think this pic shows off the frozen finish pretty well.

kamichael · 04-20-2021, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by PVC

I'm actually considering Model 3 Performance when my lease runs out. I once sat in a Model 3 Performance and the speed was intoxicating. Does it get old after a while?

Mine is a 2019, it was my first Tesla and first electric car. Nothing wrong with it at all. I'd compare it to more of a comfortable driver and not a serious performance or track car. It's quick - especially from a standstill. If you're looking for an electric car, it's really the best option at the moment - especially for the price. My biggest gripe compared to BMW and other cars I've owned is the build quality. Tesla still falls behind there and it's noticeable with the materials and details of the build. You'd never find a BMW leaving the factory with the issues I've found - and I'm not unique. My neighbor has had 3 Teslas and they have all suffered with this - again with little improvement.

As far as getting old, I'm not sure that's the issue. Again, it's a great electric car, is quick, has range, isn't overly expensive and the styling isn't offensive. It's just not the driving experience I've had with BMW - that goes for M cars and other BMW models that I've owned.

canadianbimmerlover · 04-20-2021, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Cane

I think this pic shows off the frozen finish pretty well.

The car is beautiful from that view. But with the front end and no manual, I will stick with my X3 M Competition.

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