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      09-16-2020, 06:52 PM   #353
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I don like the diamond pattern grill on the 4 but I really like the one on the M3/4
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      09-17-2020, 03:42 AM   #354
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What if BMW was just messing with us all this while with the ugly long tooth kidney grille?

What if BMW debuted the 2021 M3/M4 with a TOTALLY different front end? That would be a total shocker! Tbh, I would love something like that to happen since this new grille does not appeal to me at all since day one...
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What if BMW was just messing with us all this while with the ugly long tooth kidney grille?

What if BMW debuted the 2021 M3/M4 with a TOTALLY different front end? That would be a total shocker! Tbh, I would love something like that to happen since this new grille does not appeal to me at all since day one...
Do you also spend your spare time searching for pots of gold at end of a rainbow? Seems more likely to happen.
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      09-17-2020, 11:16 AM   #356
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M3 looks amazing with the just reworked front grills.
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M3 looks amazing with the just reworked front grills.
Yes, the car would look amazing if it were a different car. Unfortunately, BMW designed and built it this way for some reason. I hope it's a colossal flop and they go back to building good looking cars with normal sized grilles again. I hate the X7, the LCI 7 series and the new 3/4-Series, M3/4 all because of their ridiculous grilles.
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      09-18-2020, 05:14 AM   #358
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M3 looks amazing with the just reworked front grills.
No offense but that would just be a boring update.
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M3 looks amazing with the just reworked front grills.
No offense but that would just be a boring update.
Perhaps.

I'm not into P cars but respect the gradual design evolution of the 911. Some think that's boring but instead it's created an Icon over the last 50 years.
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      09-18-2020, 07:58 AM   #360
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M3 looks amazing with the just reworked front grills.
No offense but that would just be a boring update.
I'd take that boring update which to me is classy and beautiful vs truly offensive to the eye kindergartner design.
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      09-18-2020, 10:12 AM   #361
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Perhaps.

I'm not into P cars but respect the gradual design evolution of the 911. Some think that's boring but instead it's created an Icon over the last 50 years.
I'm on my 6th 911. I had a 2018 BMW M4 Competition that I really liked, but it was not a whole lot of fun to drive in Alaska during the winter. I heard the new M4 would be all-wheel-drive, but once I saw the direction BMW was headed with the new grille design, I traded my M4 in and upgraded to a 911 C4S. I know they're not in the same market segment exactly, but price wasn't really a big factor for me. I just wanted a fun coupe that I can drive all year round. But that grille alone kept me from even considering the upcoming M4.
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Yes, the car would look amazing if it were a different car. Unfortunately, BMW designed and built it this way for some reason. I hope it's a colossal flop and they go back to building good looking cars with normal sized grilles again. I hate the X7, the LCI 7 series and the new 3/4-Series, M3/4 all because of their ridiculous grilles.
The reason is in at least in large measure the new i4 and building a revamped series around the i4 concept car that was apparently well received at time it hit the show circuit.

You’re correct, BMW grills have not been the attractive element of the cars for a while now, even the small ones have swollen surrounds, but the market has remained receptive to BMWs, especially their big ass SUVs. The exception has been the sale of 4 series cars in the U S which fell off by 40% in 2019.

So, I can’t explain the new M3, but with the i4 at the core of the revamped 4 series product line, I wouldn’t expect any drastic LCI until a few years after the i4 is launched.
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      09-19-2020, 12:02 PM   #365
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Imagine after all this time and all these sneak peeks, release day comes and BMW is like, sike! Then they reveal the new M3 with normal looking grills. Ah, if only.
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No offense but that would just be a boring update.
Perhaps true. But I think I rather take boring design and fun to drive vs hideous (but bold) design and fun to drive. Just one man’s opinion.
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i know there is hate on the grill but wait til all the F8X trade in for the G8X lol
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      09-19-2020, 02:42 PM   #368
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i know there is hate on the grill but wait til all the F8X trade in for the G8X lol
I am beyond bored with my F80, cant wait to get my hands on the new M3. M5 feel is a little too big for me the M3 is a perfect fit for my needs
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i know there is hate on the grill but wait til all the F8X trade in for the G8X lol
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i know there is hate on the grill but wait til all the F8X trade in for the G8X lol
I am beyond bored with my F80, cant wait to get my hands on the new M3. M5 feel is a little too big for me the M3 is a perfect fit for my needs
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i know there is hate on the grill but wait til all the F8X trade in for the G8X lol
we all hate the grill but we're fanboys and we will buy it anyways.
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we all hate the grill but we're fanboys and we will buy it anyways.
Hmmmm a fairly simple minded attitude - guess all the marketing brainwashing is actually working on people.

When your car development process is more about the marketing than the actual car ...
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Hmmmm a fairly simple minded attitude - guess all the marketing brainwashing is actually working on people.

When your car development process is more about the marketing than the actual car ...
It seems that buyers today are interested in technology first and foremost because that's easy to show off and reaches a wider audience. Driving dynamics and looks appear to be a distant second or third.
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we will buy it anyways.
I wouldn't agree with that...
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