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      01-23-2023, 02:20 PM   #67
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Walk away? Let me try to understand you here. So if someone who is committing an offense shows that they are capable of taking extreme measures (e.g. going over 140 mph), then law enforcement should stop and let this person go because they are too dangerous? If this was the case, wouldn't it create a loophole where anyone can just speed even more to avoid a ticket?
It's an honest question, but yes - that is exactly what I'm saying.

They are pursuing him at high speeds...for a speeding ticket.

The chance of someone being injured or killed is greater than zero. Not only is he speeding and putting people at risk, but so is every police car chasing him. So they can issue him a speeding ticket.

Police sense of justice (and ego) of course says 'we need to get this guy!!', but had it ended badly would it have been worth it?
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I’d be home watching the chase on TV in a G82…
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Man, they got the M right on the charges...lol
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It's an honest question, but yes - that is exactly what I'm saying.

They are pursuing him at high speeds...for a speeding ticket.

The chance of someone being injured or killed is greater than zero. Not only is he speeding and putting people at risk, but so is every police car chasing him. So they can issue him a speeding ticket.

Police sense of justice (and ego) of course says 'we need to get this guy!!', but had it ended badly would it have been worth it?
What if he has kidnapped someone or a pound of meth in the trunk? Should they give him time to stash the victim and come home so he can drink a cold one while they write him a ticket? People usually don’t run for the sake of running. Then how do you know who was driving?

Cops don’t do it for their ego. Actions have consequences and it’s not a speeding ticket if they evade, it’s felony evasion.
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      01-23-2023, 02:40 PM   #71
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Man, they got the M right on the charges...lol
I thought that was pretty funny too.
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I thought that was pretty funny too.
Same I just couldn’t come up w funny response, aside from how Fucked he got and how the sheriff only got $80, not sure who got fucked more

Probably that one tire…
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Same I just couldn’t come up w funny response, aside from how Fucked he got and how the sheriff only got $80, not sure who got fucked more

Probably that one tire…
Sheriff spent at least that in gas
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I knew we'd see a G8X police chase sooner or later

Congrats to this "GTR" owner if he's on here...only 4 misdemeanors.
That officer is hell-bent on catching him,...even when the guy is no longer visible! Is it it worth it...vs a potential deadly accident? ijs

Edit: Not sure why the M4 driver thinks he can out run Motorola!
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So was this a stolen car? This is usually what happens to stolen cars around chitown. Car took some damage at end.

Chicago had around 20,000 cars stolen in 2022. A couple months had around 3,000! And that’s just the city. They come out to the burbs and take ours too. Arrest rate 2.5% 😡
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It's an honest question, but yes - that is exactly what I'm saying.

They are pursuing him at high speeds...for a speeding ticket.

The chance of someone being injured or killed is greater than zero. Not only is he speeding and putting people at risk, but so is every police car chasing him. So they can issue him a speeding ticket.

Police sense of justice (and ego) of course says 'we need to get this guy!!', but had it ended badly would it have been worth it?
Yeah, in MN they have backed off chasing people. They have been sued too many times after an innocent life is taken/hurt.

I will say, it looks like the cop was driving reasonable, slowing at intersections etc... It looks like he did a good job.
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Definitely some low GPA activities.

Was hoping for a PIT and was happy to see it go down!
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It's an honest question, but yes - that is exactly what I'm saying.

They are pursuing him at high speeds...for a speeding ticket.

The chance of someone being injured or killed is greater than zero. Not only is he speeding and putting people at risk, but so is every police car chasing him. So they can issue him a speeding ticket.

Police sense of justice (and ego) of course says 'we need to get this guy!!', but had it ended badly would it have been worth it?
I get your risk/benefit analysis, 'let's not pursue someone for speeding, because doing so can result in significant collateral damage.' Taking this into consideration is a wise thing. However, the context of which it is applied is ethically wrong.

We shouldn't be so focused on trying to ego-check the cop here or trying to prevent theoretical damage. The person excessively speeding has already put himself and others at danger. What's to say that the speeding person, if not stopped, will continue his high speed driving and cause a catastrophic collision? Shouldn't this be prevented as well?

I think that as a society, we should be more focused on reprimanding individuals who think they can commit offenses/crimes and get away with it vs trying to hinder ppl from doing their jobs on the basis of ego-checking.

I get that speeding on an empty road isn't the worst offense, but running away from the cops is a red flag. If the cop pulled over this guy, pulled him out of the car, brought in the K9s, impounded his car, then I would definitely say he needs an ego check. But in this situation, it ain't the cop that needs an ego check, it's the M4 driver.
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Without the spike strip, this would have gone on for a very long time. I'm surprised how long it went on even after the spike strip and the speeds he was able to do in that condition. I think he was planning to stop anyway when he was pitted.
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I get your risk/benefit analysis, 'let's not pursue someone for speeding, because doing so can result in significant collateral damage.' Taking this into consideration is a wise thing. However, the context of which it is applied is ethically wrong.

We shouldn't be so focused on trying to ego-check the cop here or trying to prevent theoretical damage. The person excessively speeding has already put himself and others at danger. What's to say that the speeding person, if not stopped, will continue his high speed driving and cause a catastrophic collision? Shouldn't this be prevented as well?

I think that as a society, we should be more focused on reprimanding individuals who think they can commit offenses/crimes and get away with it vs trying to hinder ppl from doing their jobs on the basis of ego-checking.

I get that speeding on an empty road isn't the worst offense, but running away from the cops is a red flag. If the cop pulled over this guy, pulled him out of the car, brought in the K9s, impounded his car, then I would definitely say he needs an ego check. But in this situation, it ain't the cop that needs an ego check, it's the M4 driver.
Agree with you 100% for what it's worth. I live in GA and as much as I want to take my M4 and ring it out on the public roads it's not worth it. I can't wait to get my car to a track and enjoy it as it was intended and on a closed circuit.

I can't believe this guy only got charged with 4 misdemeanors. He's lucky he didn't kill anyone.
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      01-23-2023, 03:28 PM   #82
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Is this the same guy that flipped his G82?

Did he do it to show off how great of a driver he really is?
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How do..they even know which car it is once it's at a certain distance and it's just barely taillights. That's the crazy part to me. Also how'd he not get away?
They dont.... had he just slowed down and blended in with traffic after losing line of sight he'd have been fine.
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I can't believe this guy only got charged with 4 misdemeanors. He's lucky he didn't kill anyone.
A list of the specific charges (which I am presuming to be accurate) were posted above. There were two felonies, one for fleeing and evading, the other for violating probation on an existing felony charge for street racing. Then three more misdemeanors.

Driver is just a piece of shit, plain and simple. I hope they seize the car and give him a couple of years in a box.
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Agree with you 100% for what it's worth. I live in GA and as much as I want to take my M4 and ring it out on the public roads it's not worth it. I can't wait to get my car to a track and enjoy it as it was intended and on a closed circuit.

I can't believe this guy only got charged with 4 misdemeanors. He's lucky he didn't kill anyone.
Idk, GA always seemed lax to me in terms of speeding tickets... I mean driving down some of the highways traffic is moving at 90-100 and cops are passing you even at that speed without lights on...
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I get your risk/benefit analysis, 'let's not pursue someone for speeding, because doing so can result in significant collateral damage.' Taking this into consideration is a wise thing. However, the context of which it is applied is ethically wrong.

We shouldn't be so focused on trying to ego-check the cop here or trying to prevent theoretical damage. The person excessively speeding has already put himself and others at danger. What's to say that the speeding person, if not stopped, will continue his high speed driving and cause a catastrophic collision? Shouldn't this be prevented as well?

I think that as a society, we should be more focused on reprimanding individuals who think they can commit offenses/crimes and get away with it vs trying to hinder ppl from doing their jobs on the basis of ego-checking.

I get that speeding on an empty road isn't the worst offense, but running away from the cops is a red flag. If the cop pulled over this guy, pulled him out of the car, brought in the K9s, impounded his car, then I would definitely say he needs an ego check. But in this situation, it ain't the cop that needs an ego check, it's the M4 driver.
I get actions need to have consequences, I really do.

But I have issue when the means to administer those consequences far exceed the action(s) which they are meant to punish.

In this case, I don't agree the police should pursue someone who is willing to drive like this over a speeding ticket.

Appreciate the dialogue.
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