[ChrisM4]

Originally Posted by yuvalt

They got so much hate for these grills, and since they are nearing their end of ICE era, I think they will take the extra mile and go for the CSL design. It's not that smaller, BTW.

I really hope not…I’m not a fan of the CSL design.

[vj123]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Where have these rumblings been documented, outside of pure speculation and hope from the grille haters?

This.

I feel these rumours & rumblings are mostly from non G8x owners and yet to see any valid source. Not sure why this thread made it to the homepage. It doesnt have any valid information other than the LCI being scheduled in Mar 2024.

[Nkr15]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Where have these rumblings been documented, outside of pure speculation and hope from the grille haters?

It’s been documented in someone’s basement along with the fact that it will be V8 manual AWD wagon in laguna seca blue

[Commanderwiggin]

Come on BMW...right the wrongs of the Covid era grilles and bring us some good stuff for the LCI! This is excitement that I hope doesn't end like it did when the G87 was released.

[Mako]

Originally Posted by vj123

Thats not the real LCI even though people called it so. More info here.
https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1950402

Technically it is the real LCI because it is the 3 series LCI (was that not real)? It’s the same thing they have always done with the M3 about 1.5 years after launch.

This new LCI is a new thing as it’s really the first rumored conplete LCI for the M3/M4 and only because they extended its production a couple years so they thought it was needed.

Having said that I do anticipate it will have more than just a couple minor tweaks. Maybe a power bumb as it will be the last gas engine M3/M4 ever made.

[vj123]

Originally Posted by Mako

Technically it is the real LCI because it is the 3 series LCI (was that not real)? It’s the same thing they have always done with the M3 about 1.5 years after launch.

As reported in the below post, BMW documents regular model updates as LCI and previous generation M model updates were never called as LCI. G8x might be the first M platform which will be receiving an official LCI.
https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=29267442

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

The airflow and the radiators were designed for the current grille. No way it gets revised in an LCI.

You’re still telling yourself that story? Lol

[Forzanerazzurri]

Originally Posted by Ravenseal

You’re still telling yourself that story? Lol

Sir, the M envy forum is that way...

[Ravenseal]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

Sir, the M envy forum is that way...

Envy of what?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by BMWRacer523

^^ that looks worse IMO

I agree! I prefer the standard grille.

[dr_frankfurter]

G80/1/2 LCI will feature a revised powertrain with power gains of 38 & 52 bhp + 46 & 57 lb/ft torque for standard and Competition models, respectively. Weight will be reduced by 78 and 64 kg's for RWD and xDrive models, respectively. Weight reduction is thanks to new and lighter body panels, titanium exhaust system (PPF in Europe will have some effect on power output), and a revised electronic powering steering setup (which also promises improved feedback; likely carry-over system from the XM). The 6MT lives on in the standard models. A revised ZF 8 speed should provide snappier, crisper shifts "similar to a DCT".

LCI M3/M4 will debut iDrive 9.0; H&K audio will be replaced by a new B&W Hi-Fi sound system, which will also replace all H&K systems for MY2024 and newer BMW's. Ventilated seats will be offered for the first time on carbon bucket seats. Heated AND ventilated rear seats will also be offered on all M3 variants.

LCI exterior colors: Ascari Bronze replaces Sao Paulo Yellow (think Sepang Bronze with more shine), Jerez Grey Metallic replaces Brooklyn Grey (across all BMW models), and Laguna Seca Blue II Metallic (!!!) replaces Tanzanite Blue II Metallic.

LCI interior colors: all current interior colors remain, with Tartufo finally being available for carbon bucket seats.

Exterior changes: Refreshed head/tail lights. Revised grill will replace the horizontal slats for something similar to the 3.0 CSL Hommage concept's mesh design.










Source: Mercedes-Benz

[02M3ForMe]

I think the most one can realistically expect is a grille insert change. The grille opening shape and size are here to stay (good thing, IMO).

I’ve been impressed by the looks of the CSL and some aftermarket CF options. I’d definitely be down for a more aggressive insert that’s actually OEM. ADRO and Vorsteiner bumpers prove that BMW M had it right; both of those options are big downgrades to me.

[Forzanerazzurri]

Originally Posted by dr_frankfurter

G80/1/2 LCI will feature a revised powertrain with power gains of 38 & 52 bhp + 46 & 57 lb/ft torque for standard and Competition models, respectively. Weight will be reduced by 78 and 64 kg's for RWD and xDrive models, respectively. Weight reduction is thanks to new and lighter body panels, titanium exhaust system (PPF in Europe will have some effect on power output), and a revised electronic powering steering setup (which also promises improved feedback; likely carry-over system from the XM). The 6MT lives on in the standard models. A revised ZF 8 speed should provide snappier, crisper shifts "similar to a DCT".

LCI M3/M4 will debut iDrive 9.0; H&K audio will be replaced by a new B&W Hi-Fi sound system, which will also replace all H&K systems for MY2024 and newer BMW's. Ventilated seats will be offered for the first time on carbon bucket seats. Heated AND ventilated rear seats will also be offered on all M3 variants.

LCI exterior colors: Ascari Bronze replaces Sao Paulo Yellow (think Sepang Bronze with more shine), Jerez Grey Metallic replaces Brooklyn Grey (across all BMW models), and Laguna Seca Blue II Metallic (!!!) replaces Tanzanite Blue II Metallic.

LCI interior colors: all current interior colors remain, with Tartufo finally being available for carbon bucket seats.

Exterior changes: Refreshed head/tail lights. Revised grill will replace the horizontal slats for something similar to the 3.0 CSL Hommage concept's mesh design.










Source: Mercedes-Benz

[chicagofan00]

Originally Posted by Nkr15

It’s been documented in someone’s basement along with the fact that it will be V8 manual AWD wagon in laguna seca blue

You had me sold with LSB!

Originally Posted by dr_frankfurter

G80/1/2 LCI will feature a revised powertrain with power gains of 38 & 52 bhp + 46 & 57 lb/ft torque for standard and Competition models, respectively. Weight will be reduced by 78 and 64 kg's for RWD and xDrive models, respectively. Weight reduction is thanks to new and lighter body panels, titanium exhaust system (PPF in Europe will have some effect on power output), and a revised electronic powering steering setup (which also promises improved feedback; likely carry-over system from the XM). The 6MT lives on in the standard models. A revised ZF 8 speed should provide snappier, crisper shifts "similar to a DCT".

LCI M3/M4 will debut iDrive 9.0; H&K audio will be replaced by a new B&W Hi-Fi sound system, which will also replace all H&K systems for MY2024 and newer BMW's. Ventilated seats will be offered for the first time on carbon bucket seats. Heated AND ventilated rear seats will also be offered on all M3 variants.

LCI exterior colors: Ascari Bronze replaces Sao Paulo Yellow (think Sepang Bronze with more shine), Jerez Grey Metallic replaces Brooklyn Grey (across all BMW models), and Laguna Seca Blue II Metallic (!!!) replaces Tanzanite Blue II Metallic.

LCI interior colors: all current interior colors remain, with Tartufo finally being available for carbon bucket seats.

Exterior changes: Refreshed head/tail lights. Revised grill will replace the horizontal slats for something similar to the 3.0 CSL Hommage concept's mesh design.










Source: Mercedes-Benz

[08-335xi]

The last LCI for the X3M is likely a good indication of the scale of change we will see. There weren’t major changes on the grill itself, but the font cover and headlights changed substantially.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Hadib233

I hope they don’t what an insult to all the previous buyers. The s55 M3/M4 didn’t really change. Hope they do the same for this

As a current G82 owner I wouldn’t be insulted. I can always keep this one if I like it more than the LCI.

[snareman]

They are way too proud of the huge grilles to change them. They've already said they don't care what people think. They are more like Steve Jobs with Apple - We will tell people what they like. Grilles on all of their cars only keep getting larger. I can't see them suddenly shrinking one.

[yousefnjr]

I think I’ve heard stronger rumblings after eating Taco Bell

[Hadib233]

Originally Posted by jmg

As a current G82 owner I wouldn’t be insulted. I can always keep this one if I like it more than the LCI.

I think the difference between the LCI m5 and the 2019 one is a big difference. It kindve made the 19’ look dated. I just think car companies should chill, like the Camaro zl1 for example, it’s minimal changes keeps that car looking new.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by dr_frankfurter

G80/1/2 LCI will feature a revised powertrain with power gains of 38 & 52 bhp + 46 & 57 lb/ft torque for standard and Competition models, respectively. Weight will be reduced by 78 and 64 kg's for RWD and xDrive models, respectively. Weight reduction is thanks to new and lighter body panels, titanium exhaust system (PPF in Europe will have some effect on power output), and a revised electronic powering steering setup (which also promises improved feedback; likely carry-over system from the XM). The 6MT lives on in the standard models. A revised ZF 8 speed should provide snappier, crisper shifts "similar to a DCT".

LCI M3/M4 will debut iDrive 9.0; H&K audio will be replaced by a new B&W Hi-Fi sound system, which will also replace all H&K systems for MY2024 and newer BMW's. Ventilated seats will be offered for the first time on carbon bucket seats. Heated AND ventilated rear seats will also be offered on all M3 variants.

LCI exterior colors: Ascari Bronze replaces Sao Paulo Yellow (think Sepang Bronze with more shine), Jerez Grey Metallic replaces Brooklyn Grey (across all BMW models), and Laguna Seca Blue II Metallic (!!!) replaces Tanzanite Blue II Metallic.

LCI interior colors: all current interior colors remain, with Tartufo finally being available for carbon bucket seats.

Exterior changes: Refreshed head/tail lights. Revised grill will replace the horizontal slats for something similar to the 3.0 CSL Hommage concept's mesh design.










Source: Mercedes-Benz

Lol not sure if this is a joke but the doors are already aluminum and the fenders are already pretty light (and flimsy). Maybe they go aluminum on the trunk and hood (which I’m not sure if they already are) or maybe CF hood? They would save that for the M3 CS and keep it distinct from the CF CSL hood i’m guessing.

[vj123]

Originally Posted by jmg

Lol not sure if this is a joke

I think you missed the last sentence in that post!

[jm490]

Originally Posted by 02M3ForMe

I’ve been impressed by the looks of the CSL and some aftermarket CF options. I’d definitely be down for a more aggressive insert that’s actually OEM. ADRO and Vorsteiner bumpers prove that BMW M had it right; both of those options are big downgrades to me.

I agree 100% with this. The aftermarket options to “fix” the grill are huge downgrades imo. BMW got it right whether this forum likes it or not. It’s polarizing and they made it work with the current design way better than any of these high end aftermarket companies are trying to do.