[Medal]

Stock 825M's with Sottozero's, no issues with traction or anything. Only difference I'm noticed is the steering feels noticeably lighter.

[luckylingy]

Originally Posted by Zirenz2006

Finally got my winter wheel set.

VMR 801 19" square setup

I like them. They remind me of style 826M

Looking good -- and you're right: for the uninitiated, they're dead ringers for the 826M rims.

[Hawkdog]

Put my winter setup on today. MSW 50 with Vredestein tires. After I swapped them and drove for a bit the car detected the tire swap. Also saw in the settings you can change it from summer to Winter/AS tires so I did that too. Thought I’d share since I don’t remember seeing anyone else posting about that.

[luckylingy]

Originally Posted by Hawkdog

Put my winter setup on today. MSW 50 with Vredestein tires. After I swapped them and drove for a bit the car detected the tire swap. Also saw in the settings you can change it from summer to Winter/AS tires so I did that too. Thought I’d share since I don’t remember seeing anyone else posting about that.

Thanks for the tip, Hawkdog. Sharp-looking M4, BTW (though perhaps I'm biased).

[csayad]

Originally Posted by Medal

Stock 825M's with Sottozero's, no issues with traction or anything. Only difference I'm noticed is the steering feels noticeably lighter.

Originally Posted by Medal

Stock 825M's with Sottozero's, no issues with traction or anything. Only difference I'm noticed is the steering feels noticeably lighter.

I have a twin! Pm me your number!

[BMWRacer523]

Finally got the VMR V801s. Michelin PA5's are waiting at Costco. Hopefully get them installed this weekend. I like how they look!
Got them from kevin@eas btw.

[F80M4ROCKS]

need some help

i just got my sottozero 3s installed and having some issues or maybe not..

seems like every time i press the pedal hard, my traction control cuts on, dont have this problem on my 911 or panamera so wondering if this is normal on BMWs (BTW I have a bmw m4 xdrive). Just want to make sure tire rack sent me the correct tires and what PSI people are running. (i saw some people post 35, so i set 35 all around). i tired driving around on mdm and traction off, but seems pretty sketch as it does feel like its losing traction

If the tires are correct and this is normal, no worries, ill just dump some lead out of my foot till summer, but just wanted to make sure the tires are correct, thanks for any help

BTW i noticed when adjust the tire monitoring, they dont have the correct rear size, it says 2753519 (the only option), which is the front tire, not sure if others have had this issue either. thanks again

[BMWRacer523]

Got VMR V801 installed with Michelin PA-5 at Costco today. After some initial hesitation questions about the fitment (I assured them I had done my homework and this was the right setup) the guys at Costco did a great job.

Wheel is V801 19x9.5 ET25 Anthracite sourced from kevin@eas (forum sponsor)
https://europeanautosource.com/catal...801-wheel-set/

[HorsePower]

Originally Posted by BMWRacer523

Got VMR V801 installed with Michelin PA-5 at Costco today. After some initial hesitation questions about the fitment (I assured them I had done my homework and this was the right setup) the guys at Costco did a great job.

Wheel is V801 19x9.5 ET25 Anthracite sourced from kevin@eas (forum sponsor)
https://europeanautosource.com/catal...801-wheel-set/

Looks great! I got a different square 19 VMR winter set-up from Kevin, and am loving them.

Just curious, how tight is your inner suspension clearance up front? At +22 offset, my VMRs have 3mm less offset than yours, and with the thick rim protection on my Vred. Wintrac Pro snows, the clearance is fine (but at the limit of what I'd feel comfortable with).

[S@v3f3rris]

Originally Posted by F80M4ROCKS

need some help

i just got my sottozero 3s installed and having some issues or maybe not..

seems like every time i press the pedal hard, my traction control cuts on, dont have this problem on my 911 or panamera so wondering if this is normal on BMWs (BTW I have a bmw m4 xdrive). Just want to make sure tire rack sent me the correct tires and what PSI people are running. (i saw some people post 35, so i set 35 all around). i tired driving around on mdm and traction off, but seems pretty sketch as it does feel like its losing traction

If the tires are correct and this is normal, no worries, ill just dump some lead out of my foot till summer, but just wanted to make sure the tires are correct, thanks for any help

BTW i noticed when adjust the tire monitoring, they dont have the correct rear size, it says 2753519 (the only option), which is the front tire, not sure if others have had this issue either. thanks again

I had this issue in November.

https://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=28274862

I think it was the combo of brand new winter tires, air temps in the 50s/60s and a ton of hp/torque that contributed to traction control kicking on.

Hasn't happened as much as I've gotten more miles on the tires and it has been colder. I run 32psi up front and 35psi rear. Also, in the tire setup menu, I think it has something like other/winter tire selected since I am running 20s on the rear.

Lately I have been going with regular 4wd mode and only switch over to MDM by choice and not because DSC is taking power off.

[BMWRacer523]

Originally Posted by HorsePower

Looks great! I got a different square 19 VMR winter set-up from Kevin, and am loving them.

Just curious, how tight is your inner suspension clearance up front? At +22 offset, my VMRs have 3mm less offset than yours, and with the thick rim protection on my Vred. Wintrac Pro snows, the clearance is fine (but at the limit of what I'd feel comfortable with).

I just checked and looks like there's sufficient clearance. I did not feel any issues on my short drive home but perhaps spacers to bring it to the stock offset would be a good idea.

[BMWRacer523]

Added 12mm spacers front and back. Looks much better and I also feel better about the clearance.

[HorsePower]

Originally Posted by BMWRacer523

Added 12mm spacers front and back. Looks much better and I also feel better about the clearance.

Looks great! Very cool winter set-up.

[barryc365]

Originally Posted by F80M4ROCKS

need some help

i just got my sottozero 3s installed and having some issues or maybe not..

seems like every time i press the pedal hard, my traction control cuts on, dont have this problem on my 911 or panamera so wondering if this is normal on BMWs (BTW I have a bmw m4 xdrive). Just want to make sure tire rack sent me the correct tires and what PSI people are running. (i saw some people post 35, so i set 35 all around). i tired driving around on mdm and traction off, but seems pretty sketch as it does feel like its losing traction

If the tires are correct and this is normal, no worries, ill just dump some lead out of my foot till summer, but just wanted to make sure the tires are correct, thanks for any help

BTW i noticed when adjust the tire monitoring, they dont have the correct rear size, it says 2753519 (the only option), which is the front tire, not sure if others have had this issue either. thanks again

Something doesn't sound right. I wonder would the wrong sensor be sending a bad signal or something making it cut out?

I don't lose traction at all in this weather even when hammering it on my winters (Alpin 5)

[2022M4COMP]

Originally Posted by Hawkdog

Put my winter setup on today. MSW 50 with Vredestein tires. After I swapped them and drove for a bit the car detected the tire swap. Also saw in the settings you can change it from summer to Winter/AS tires so I did that too. Thought I’d share since I don’t remember seeing anyone else posting about that.

How much did you end up spending if you don't mind sharing ?

[S@v3f3rris]

Originally Posted by barryc365

Something doesn't sound right. I wonder would the wrong sensor be sending a bad signal or something making it cut out?

I don't lose traction at all in this weather even when hammering it on my winters (Alpin 5)

Update on Sottozeros. Picking up relatives from the airport on a warm Xmas eve. Air temps 56. Tire temps 75-80. DSC coming on at highway speeds when accelerating from 65 mph. Switched to MDM 4wd and noticing wheel spin w/ firm acceleration. I think the sensors are fine and DSC is sensing correctly. These tires are just super soft when it gets warm.

[Griz]

Originally Posted by S@v3f3rris

Update on Sottozeros. Picking up relatives from the airport on a warm Xmas eve. Air temps 56. Tire temps 75-80. DSC coming on at highway speeds when accelerating from 65 mph. Switched to MDM 4wd and noticing wheel spin w/ firm acceleration. I think the sensors are fine and DSC is sensing correctly. These tires are just super soft when it gets warm.

Given those conditions, I’m not surprised by traction control kicking in. Winter tires are built to operate at colder temperatures AND handle ice and snow. They should feel less planted out of corners and during hard acceleration, particularly when it’s 50+ outside.

[evilalien]

Very happy with the BMW set for winter. I think they look awesome, and due to timing (delivery yesterday) they'll be what I roll on through break-in.

I haven't put too many KMs on them yet, but going out for a little drive today.

[luckylingy]

Snow, sunshine and mountains .. looks like a pretty part of Canada, evilalen.

[jailonacs99]

Originally Posted by Griz

Given those conditions, I’m not surprised by traction control kicking in. Winter tires are built to operate at colder temperatures AND handle ice and snow. They should feel less planted out of corners and during hard acceleration, particularly when it’s 50+ outside.

My take was going to be the temps too. You don't really even want winters on until the temp is capping out in the low 40s. At those high a temperature winters lose performance similar to how a summer will lose performance in the cold. The rubber composition just won't properly grip the road. I'd be curious if the problem still exists when it's <30-40 degrees out.

[AhsanU]

I'm torn between Scylla and Charybdis at this point.

I've decided to purchase a set of 826M's in 19" for the rear, but the main concern is officially tyre choice since having 19's all around opens up a few more possibilities vs the stock 19/20.

I'm currently torn between a square set of VikingContact 7's, and Alpin PA4's. Basically, do I want to go for performance winters, or do I go for studless snow & ice.

I'm in Westchester N.Y. but frequently drive to the Bronx and sometimes LI. The roads range anywhere between completely clear, to icy death (the part of the Bronx I frequent doesn't get ploughed often and my old folks' driveway/area is seldom shovelled). I don't particularly care for spirited driving as my main objective driving during the winter/snow is getting from point A to B safely and securely, sometimes with my 7 month old daughter, but there is a need to be able to manoeuvre because of garbage drivers that are everywhere. So I don't care too much that Alpin 4/5, Sottozero, and Blizzaks (the non WS90 at least) will handle better per sé. I did however, read that studless snow/ice tyres actually don't grip as well in completely dry pavement above a certain temperature? I suspect 85% of the time I drive, the roads will be fine, but the last thing I want is to be stuck that one time the roads are bad on performance winters, or look for grip on dry roads while on studless snow/ice tyres. Can anyone shed light on the grip on dry pavement on studless snow/ice tyres?

I had a set of Alpin PA4's on my old GT3 and they were pretty good, but when I think about my family now - I don't care for the performance aspect at all and just want the tyre that'll keep me/us safest.

[S@v3f3rris]

Originally Posted by jailonacs99

My take was going to be the temps too. You don't really even want winters on until the temp is capping out in the low 40s. At those high a temperature winters lose performance similar to how a summer will lose performance in the cold. The rubber composition just won't properly grip the road. I'd be curious if the problem still exists when it's <30-40 degrees out.

Last two days have been 35-45 degrees as a high. On my shorter highway trips, no DSC interference in regular 4WD the few times I opened the car up. Tire temps were below 60 when fully warmed up and running.