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      10-22-2021, 02:33 PM   #287
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Just got these delivered from a dealership in MD

….i also wish my 826 wheels had this satin finish rather than the gloss black
How did they ship them? Were they in boxes or have some kind of protection on them?
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I picked my set up in PA last Wednesday. They come on a half pallet , not in boxes.
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      10-24-2021, 09:19 AM   #289
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Well, it seems like all the winter wheel options from Tire Rack for 19" & 20" are out (either not available or until 2022) and I don't want to spend $$$ for OEM wheel set as I am not sure how many winters I plan to keep this car (as I may move oversea in a year or so).
So I figure I would just go with a set of VREDESTEIN WINTRAC PRO just to get by this winter but they only come in 275/30/20 for the rear, would this fit the OEM wheel with no issue? There is an inch difference in width.
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      10-24-2021, 10:03 AM   #290
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275/30/20 for the rear, would this fit the OEM wheel with no issue? There is an inch difference in width.
It's 10mm width difference over stock, should have no issues at all.
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      10-27-2021, 08:31 AM   #291
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FYI, I just purchased from Kevin @ EAS four 19x9.5" et 22 VMR V710 wheels (5x112) with TPMS and 275/35R19 Vred winter tires (all mounted and balanced) for $2600 shipped.

According to Kevin, VMR machines the center bore to spec., so no hub rings should be needed. I'll post pictures once they arrive. I went with the V710s because they were the cheapest option of the VMR wheels. He also said, currently, they only have the gunmetal finish available as a full set.
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      10-27-2021, 02:45 PM   #292
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FYI, I just purchased from Kevin @ EAS four 19x9.5" et 22 VMR V710 wheels (5x112) with TPMS and 275/35R19 Vred winter tires (all mounted and balanced) for $2600 shipped.

According to Kevin, VMR machines the center bore to spec., so no hub rings should be needed. I'll post pictures once they arrive. I went with the V710s because they were the cheapest option of the VMR wheels. He also said, currently, they only have the gunmetal finish available as a full set.
I just ordered the same
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      10-29-2021, 05:28 AM   #293
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Fitted today. Rear offset is not perfect but not bad


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      10-29-2021, 08:02 AM   #294
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Fitted today. Rear offset is not perfect but not bad


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Have you spacers fitted no?
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      10-29-2021, 08:14 AM   #295
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Have you spacers fitted no?
Nope. 100% OEM. No spacer.

Offset is acceptable to my mind.

Strange this is :

I asked BMW dealer to do a geometry. Was not able, he got only value for 19'' front and 20'' rear but not 19/19 square
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Have you spacers fitted no?
Nope. 100% OEM. No spacer.

Offset is acceptable to my mind.

Strange this is :

I asked BMW dealer to do a geometry. Was not able, he got only value for 19'' front and 20'' rear but not 19/19 square
Computer says no!

I would go to someone who actually knows alignment rather than a kid at BMW who is just following the rules in the handbook

If your car is stock, you don't need new alignment from just putting on new wheels and tires.

Usually you'd get the alignment done if you wore out a set of tires and the alignment would have been knocked out of line after 10k miles or whatever
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      10-29-2021, 10:20 AM   #297
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Usually you'd get the alignment done if you wore out a set of tires and the alignment would have been knocked out of line after 10k miles or whatever
Huh? This is FUD. Wearing out tires does not impact alignment. Perhaps if you hit a curb or changed suspension components. But wearing out tires, and needing an alignment? Yeah, no.
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      10-29-2021, 11:06 AM   #298
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Guys, I need an opinion. I've had blizzaks before and love them, but they don't make a 285/30 for the rear. They only make 295/35 and that won't fit I'm on KW I will likely rub. My question is, should I get the Continental DWS or the Pirelli winters for snow. I don't care about price. One set runs about 1,000$ the other 1,600$. My car is my daily, in winters here I've only had Blizzaks, but that's out.. are pirellis just as good? Or should I go with the Continentals. We don't have a ton of snow here or at least a ton that I have to drive in. But I don't wanna be slip sliding all over the place either.
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      10-29-2021, 11:50 AM   #299
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I would go with the Pirellis over DWS. They are solid winter tires.
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Usually you'd get the alignment done if you wore out a set of tires and the alignment would have been knocked out of line after 10k miles or whatever
Huh? This is FUD. Wearing out tires does not impact alignment. Perhaps if you hit a curb or changed suspension components. But wearing out tires, and needing an alignment? Yeah, no.
If you did 10k miles and you 'wore out your tires' you're telling me you wouldn't get alignment done when installing new tires ??? Seriously?

My point was after a certain period, your alignment will need to be redone.

It does not need to be done on a brand new car when swapping on winter wheels
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If you did 10k miles and you 'wore out your tires' you're telling me you wouldn't get alignment done when installing new tires ??? Seriously?

My point was after a certain period, your alignment will need to be redone.

It does not need to be done on a brand new car when swapping on winter wheels
No, it's not needed. Full Stop. You can waste your money all you like, but the geometry of the suspension has a very low probability of changing with just normal driving.
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If you did 10k miles and you 'wore out your tires' you're telling me you wouldn't get alignment done when installing new tires ??? Seriously?

My point was after a certain period, your alignment will need to be redone.

It does not need to be done on a brand new car when swapping on winter wheels
No, it's not needed. Full Stop. You can waste your money all you like, but the geometry of the suspension has a very low probability of changing with just normal driving.
A bad pot hole is enough to knock out the alignment.

Getting alignment done when getting new tires after a few years/10k miles is standard procedure on a Kia never mind an M3
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A bad pot hole is enough to knock out the alignment.

Getting alignment done when getting new tires after a few years/10k miles is standard procedure on a Kia never mind an M3
That's your opinion, I'm on my 13th BMW and never had this type of need for alignments.
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If you did 10k miles and you 'wore out your tires' you're telling me you wouldn't get alignment done when installing new tires ??? Seriously?

My point was after a certain period, your alignment will need to be redone.

It does not need to be done on a brand new car when swapping on winter wheels
No, it's not needed. Full Stop. You can waste your money all you like, but the geometry of the suspension has a very low probability of changing with just normal driving.
A bad pot hole is enough to knock out the alignment.

Getting alignment done when getting new tires after a few years/10k miles is standard procedure on a Kia never mind an M3
Are you high? What standard procedure are you even referring to? There is no way in hell anyone should follow this advice. Your car does not need an alignment every 10k miles… your car needs an alignment when your car starts pulling left or right or when your tires start wearing abnormally. I swear, people need to stop giving stupid advices on the internet just to validate their own bad decisions
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If you did 10k miles and you 'wore out your tires' you're telling me you wouldn't get alignment done when installing new tires ??? Seriously?

My point was after a certain period, your alignment will need to be redone.

It does not need to be done on a brand new car when swapping on winter wheels
No, it's not needed. Full Stop. You can waste your money all you like, but the geometry of the suspension has a very low probability of changing with just normal driving.
A bad pot hole is enough to knock out the alignment.

Getting alignment done when getting new tires after a few years/10k miles is standard procedure on a Kia never mind an M3
Are you high? What standard procedure are you even referring to? There is no way in hell anyone should follow this advice. Your car does not need an alignment every 10k miles… your car needs an alignment when your car starts pulling left or right or when your tires start wearing abnormally. I swear, people need to stop giving stupid advices on the internet just to validate their own bad decisions
Google it man

Possibly the most basic thing you can do in a performance car. I used to do mine before every track day and visit to the Nurburgring but what do
I know
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Got my winter setup today…now just need a car to put them on!!

MSW Type 50 20x9.5 (square)
Vredestein Wintrac Pro 275/30/20.
Just got mine in today
Question; I need to swap out the center caps to BMW

What size are the MSW center caps size ?
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      10-30-2021, 02:24 PM   #307
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Just providing an update on the center caps (if anyone needs this info). I stumbled across a perfectly seamless solution that looks stock. Instead of double-sided taping the BMW emblem, simply remove the one that came with the MSW center caps and literally snap in the BMW ones. They fit as if they were made for it, no tape, just a snap in!!!
How many mm is he msw type 50 center cap ?
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Just got mine in today
Question; I need to swap out the center caps to BMW

What size are the MSW center caps size ?
The 58mm stick-ons (they come w/ 2 sided tape pre-attached) fit. They are a *tiny* bit smaller than the MSW logos, but not noticeable.
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