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The back seat in Macans always seemed really tight to me. As a daily it makes sense but if you ever plan on going to the track the Macan is a weird choice even if some organizations technically allow you to drive it.
Test drive is the only way to know … And as far as "they aren't competitors" comments — this would be a really boring sub-forum if we were only allowed to talk about the C63 and Alfa Quadr——. People cross shop vehicle classes all the time, don't act like it's so weird…. Most people have a variety of vehicles that could fit into their lifestyle ranging from a corvette to a Civic Type R to G82 to Ford Raptor … life is too short to limit your choices over (mostly) arbitrary classifications.
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I cross shopped both cars and ended up going with a F80 a few years ago, so I can understand people wanting a good handling, nice car with 4 doors.
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A few months back when I commented on this thread, I said I was going to get a Macan GTS instead of a M3. However, the GTS allocation I received was missing the electronic steering column adjustment. This missing option was enough for me to forgo that allocation. However, now I'm debating between a MY23 GTS vs. the yet to be announced M3CS. Seems like a crazy matchup but can see owning either. Today, the slight edge goes to the CS 😂
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Having owned a macan s (racechip gts, awe straight pipes) it's not as crazy as a comparison as it seems. The macan isn't a 911, but handles astonishingly well for what it is. It's a really fun dd. Where the 2 separate is that a macan is fun for a dd, but will never be a car that anyone looks forward to taking out on the weekend as a dedicated fun car. The m3 can live in both classes.
My macan had the highest spec seats, and they were truly excellent. Better than my non buckets. While the handling was incredible (I had 22s on mine, and turn in was razor sharp) you're still aware that you're driving a taller, sizeable vehicle. In the G8x, I'm highly aware that the car's limits are way, way beyond my ability, and I never had that feeling in the Porsche. In this car, even pushing up to the max of my confidence level, the car still feels like it's yawning. It's hard to quantify that feeling, but the G8x is purpose built, and the macan is something from a different class that has had wizardry applied to make it better than one would ever expect. Its amazing for what it is, but the G8x does edge it out in feel. |
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I have a 2022 M3 xdrive scheduled for week 24 and 2022 Macan GTS scheduled for June production. Both are still 2022 but I actually want my M3 to be a 2023 and I don't mind paying extra because I want the idrive 8. But for the Macan GTS, I wish it stays at 2022 because nothing really changed and I'll be saving $3000. Both are MSRP so I am debating if I should drop my M3 xDrive allocation if it doesn't convert to MY 2023 and just stick with a Macan GTS. My plan was to take delivery of both and see what I like better but what do you all think?
I test drove the M3 comp RWD and Macan S since I can't find the M3 AWD and Macan GTS in my state. But interested to hear what you think. If I do take both, Macan would replace my truck/family car and M3 will be my daily. At this market, I don't know if giving up an allocation is a good idea because you can flip them for profit especially these two cars are highly sought after. As much as I'd like to give it to other members of this forum, dealerships hate that. |
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I am a big Poeschefile and the 911 is my favorite car. I did drive a Macan before my new M4 came in and it’s not for me. I’m sure it’s a great vehicle but I prefer my M4 (and previous F82).
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I love the Macan in general, and I'd love to have one at some point. However it would make no sense to have one in addition to the G80x.
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I saw the thread title and just had to click to see the responses.
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Fair comparison. Sounds like a lot of haters honestly. My brothers Macan GTS has better steering feel, suspension damping and transmission programming (PDK vs DCT) compared to my F82. I've driven a friends g80 xdrive extensively and while a Macan won't match its low CG, power and objective performance metrics, I'd be lying if I said it didn't have better steering and very good overall control feel and balance.
If every professional reviewer that tests infinitely more cars than anyone here, genuinely likes them and compares them to Porsches own sports cars, that speaks volumes. I'm waiting on my G82 since I want much more power than a Macan gives, but can't fault its feedback at all and can see one for my wife honestly. |
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For those who are saying there is no comparison between the two, i would have totally agreed, that I wouldn't even consider a Macan S to be on the same scale as an M, in the handling dept.
Back in March, I had a chance to track a .2 3RS and the Track Taxi was a Macan S. I will tell you, that you could have put me in any car, they offered me to track, 488 Pista, Huracan Evo, etc, and I would have had a hard time keeping up with that Macan S in the corners. The racecar driver that took us for a track taxi ride, obviously had everything to do with it, but riding in the back of that Macan S, as a 4th passenger, had no affect on how well that Macan went around the track. I paid to drive, a car of my choice, but that ride in the Macan, with a professional driver, was worth almost as much as I paid to drive, myself.
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I'm on my second Macan GTS, and although I still like the vehicle, I'm ready to go back to a car. I will say though, the only reason I shopped the M3 is you can get it with xDrive now.
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I sold my E92 a couple of months ago as it was rarely getting used since WFH. Also, decided to consolidate two cars (the other car being an SUV) into one since I and my wife do things together all the time. I knew I was going to miss not having M3 so I looked at several performance SUVs (the usual suspects like X3M, GLC 63, SQ5, etc.) and settled on Macan S. Next GTS allocation is still like a year away and S was available in one month so after much research I figured S is fine for our shared vehicle. I did test drive an older Turbo model and it handled better than I expected for an SUV. I am thinking the 2023 S with PASM and air suspension would handle even better. I think Macan is a great compromise if you will have only one car and need convenience and versatility. On an unrelated note, it was such a turn-off to experience the Porsche elitism by some member in the Macan forum. Anything but Macan GTS is a second class car by some... It's a freaking SUV at the end of the day ffs. Never in my nearly 10 years of time in m3post have I experienced anything like that.
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As owner of a '21 Macan GTS and a '22 M3 (RWD 6-sp) I would offer a couple of comments:
-- I found the macanforum.com welcoming -- not much Porsche snobbery there. -- While the '23 GTS is a great vehicle, I think the '23 S -- at a lower price point -- has much to offer. Youtuber Nick Murray has just posted a comparison of '23 S and GTS and claims the difference in power is mostly "brochure horsepower" e.g., marketing malarkey. The S probably needs a couple of spendy options (notably air suspension) to be competitive. -- On the subject of interior room, I don't find the Macan to be that much roomier than the M3. Of course the hatchback is handier that the M3's trunk.
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The Macan is my wife's ride; I have never pushed it. I have never much pushed the M3, either, until yesterday when I drove with an Oregon chapter BMW CCA tour. I'm 75 and past the age when I drove hard. Your criticism is valid but the only direct comparison I can make about driving dynamics is that the Macan GTS with it's active air suspension, has great ride quality -- better than the G80 M3. I don't have the experience to comment on acceleration and handling as I drive relatively gently.
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Have a G80 Comp and had a '21 Chalk Macan S for a while. No comparison in my mind in any performance regard.
One exception - materials and wind noise. The doors on my Macan closed like a tank and on road it was very very quiet. Side note. I will say, even though it's based on the Q5 chassis, it is more cramped and very small in the rear seats and hatch.
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I go into the dealer tomorrow to finalize my M4 6MT options as I just received my allocation. I’m still going to go for the M4 but was somewhat hesitant after putting down my deposit, (yes, because of the grille) so I checked out the new Macan S. It’s a great vehicle and I’ll likely get one next year, but this was my last chance to get a manual BMW without the ID8 setup so I can’t pass that up.
People rely too much on “those aren’t competitors” when discussing vehicles. The M4 will be my 7th vehicle, and I just want something fun. The last time I was seriously vehicle shopping it came down to an M550i, a Lexus LC500 (which I bought) or believe it or not, a base model Hyundai Venue with the manual transmission. All completely different vehicles, but each had a certain charm that I loved. |
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The ONLY reason I am on this forum now is because my employer is not doing employee purchases at this time. I was ready to spec a '23 Macan GTS to replace my '15 Macan Turbo.
Yes, the Macan is a compromise car but here in Colorado with limited garage space, some can say it (GTS) is the "perfect," all-around compromise car for the enthusiast. Luckily, the lack of an employee purchase option has lead me to lurk here. For me, the upside to a G80 M3 is its a car, not an SUV. SUV's are fine and all, but they're always a compromise in looks and physics as they have to be. A car can be at home on a racetrack whereas an SUV, no matter how functional it is, is still awkward. Sure there is a lack of ground clearance in the G80, but with a set of winter tires, I can pretty much get where I need here in the low-lands. For the high-country, I lease my wife a Macan which can handle just about anything our CO winters can throw at it. I think it comes down to utility/ground-clearance/only-car syndrome. With the G80, both have quality interiors. Handling is pretty close at 8/10's. Driver's engagement is also pretty close at 8/10's with a slight edge to the Macan w/PDK and that phenomenal steering. At the same time, push both to 10/10's (which most will never do esp at the track) and that's where the cream rises to favor the M3. If you are solely going for looks and utility is lower, like a lot lower on the priority list, get the most expensive 911 you can afford and don't look back.
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