[midlifecrisis]

We can relax, I think. In an interview published today M chief Markus Flasch confirmed that the next M3 will be available with a stick.

https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/07/23/i...-transmission/

[M 4EVER]

Originally Posted by JRobUSC

The new head of M just said flat out there would be a manual in the new M3/M4:

https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/07/23/i...-transmission/

What the hell is going on here?
I am confused as F....
We don't get one now we do???

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by seis-speed

Jason

This is confusing, I go from despair and deep sadness, to hope and rejuvenation....

The linked article/interview contradicts this thread's 'no-manual' claim.

Long story longer, it looks like they are indeed committed to offer a manual option for the next generation G82.

So you can breath easy.

.

[enigma01]

Originally Posted by midlifecrisis

We can relax, I think. In an interview published today M chief Markus Flasch confirmed that the next M3 will be available with a stick.

https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/07/23/i...-transmission/

I like the new M boss already... Good analogy to the mechanical watches.

"Manual is very important. The manual stick shift is not a performance-bringer, because an automatic transmission is just faster, you can ask any race driver. But it gives the vehicle character and I kind of compare it to people who love mechanical watches; it isn’t more precise and it doesn’t have any advantage at all but it’s a character feature. So is a stick shift."

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

Not really...

First - Semi automatic trans- 1930s
3AT - 1950s
4AT - 1960s
5AT - 1970s
6AT - 1980s
SMG -1990s
DCT- 2000s
7AT - 2000s
8AT - 2010s
10AT- 2010s
??? - 2020s

Automatic transmissions are all destined to be replaced by a *faster* automatic.

DCT will look as slow and arcane as SMG 5-10 years from now and few will care because the newer faster (10AT for example) is available.

I just like the way m-dct will bang gears in sport plus and help kick my ass-end sideways...

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by JMon

Isn't the muffler basically a functional part of the underbody aerodynamic system? I've seen some paint them flat black with high temp paint.

Not necessarily.

The M2 had a small muffler on it until the M2 competition came out.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by seis-speed

Jason

This is confusing, I go from despair and deep sadness, to hope and rejuvenation....

Originally Posted by Poochie

This article/interview contradicts this thread's no-manual claim.

Long story longer, it looks like they are indeed committed to offer a manual option for the next generation G82.

So you can breath easy.

.

All part of the BMW AG/Bimmerpost guerilla test marketing... next there will be a poll...

[1] " Guerrilla marketing is an advertisement strategy in which a company uses surprise and/or unconventional interactions in order to promote a product or service.
[2] It is a type of publicity. "

[M 4EVER]

Originally Posted by Poochie

This article/interview contradicts this thread's no-manual claim.

Long story longer, it looks like they are indeed committed to offer a manual option for the next generation G82.

So you can breath easy.

.

Nice... What a relief

Will get one for sure now. Having 2 kids it's easier then coupe and plus MT

And it will come as AWD like F90 M5?

[Miko M]

I spend some time with mine boys and now I see things changed. Lol

Couple hours ago I was in depression mode now I am happy.

Now we are back in business!!!!

I guess the huge grill doesn't bother me anymore.

NICE STRATEGY BMW

[seis-speed]

Originally Posted by Miko M

I spend some time with mine boys and now I see things changed. Lol

Couple hours ago I was in depression mode now I am happy.

Now we are back in business!!!!

I guess the huge grill doesn't bother me anymore.

NICE STRATEGY BMW

6MT for life....

[xlover]

Originally Posted by Poochie

The linked article/interview contradicts this thread's no-manual claim.

Long story longer, it looks like they are indeed committed to offer a manual option for the next generation G82.

So you can breath easy.

.

My hypothesis based on how bmw suddenly obfuscated and removed information that ynguldyn uses for his forecasting is that they are not actually removing the manual but instead trying to cut the leaks in general until they can release the car.

I generally think that bmw silently allows this practice to go on to keep deep rooted fans in the know as to what's going on but in this case too much is getting out and they want to save some details for themselves.

I suppose we will know the truth of all this eventually.....

[M 4EVER]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

All part of the BMW AG/Bimmerpost guerilla test marketing... next there will be a poll...

[1] " Guerrilla marketing is an advertisement strategy in which a company uses surprise and/or unconventional interactions in order to promote a product or service.
[2] It is a type of publicity. "

They got some nerves, they really disappointed me that I wanted to delete this app

[Miko M]

Originally Posted by seis-speed

6MT for life....

First slap in the face with the giant grill

Then kick in the nuts with NO MT

Now MT is back and we are all happy so that the huge grill is forgotten. Lol

I am so glad the MT is back that I will celebrate

[DCG]

In the new video it definitely looks stable and more planted, that's a great thing. Must be the M xDrive.

Wish they were more aggressive bulged wheel arches.

[52172]

The c8 is gonna woop so much ass it isn't even funny.

[RPiM5]

Heading over to the head of M Division's house when it finally gets announced there will officially be no manual in the new M3/M4 like...

[KevinM]

Originally Posted by Jason

And I'm taking the "no manuals" position for G8x and all G22 based on the limited and inconclusive info I have right now.

Nail, meet coffin.

Seems like BMW is in a bit of turmoil currently given leadership changes.

But...in my heart...I still have hope.

And, if not, I'll hang on to my current BMWs and perhaps get past my "mid-life crisis" perception of 911s. . (No offense!)

[M3 Number 86]

Dude every update gets worse lol

[Neptune7]

I don't understand how this is true, given that Markus Flasch himself says that there would be a manual:

https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/07/23/i...-transmission/


BB: The upcoming BMW M3 and M4 are some of the most highly anticipated M cars in a very long time. Will there be any surprises for BMW fans?

MF: No, it’s a bit early to disclose all the details but something I want to highlight is that we will have a manual stick shift. We have already disclosed we will have the option of four-wheel drive. We’ve not decided which variant, which system, but everything that’s on our current lineup; think of the M5; can be made available. The M3 and M4, I’ve driven the pre-production cars already and they’re fantastic.



BB: You’ve already sort of answered this by saying the manual will still be available in the M3 but will it be available in other M cars moving forward?

MF: Manual is very important. The manual stick shift is not a performance-bringer, because an automatic transmission is just faster, you can ask any race driver. But it gives the vehicle character and I kind of compare it to people who love mechanical watches; it isn’t more precise and it doesn’t have any advantage at all but it’s a character feature. So is a stick shift.

[xlover]

Originally Posted by JRobUSC

The new head of M just said flat out there would be a manual in the new M3/M4:

https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/07/23/i...-transmission/

This needs its own thread or at least a link on the first page!

[F85MTuNED]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

I just like the way m-dct will bang gears in sport plus and help kick my ass-end sideways...

😎

[BMthusiast]

I have no idea what to think at this point with any certainty. I'd imagine the easiest way to make everyone happy is to do RWD 6MT and 8-speed M xDrive M Sport Automatic w/ DL.