07-27-2019, 01:46 PM | #1 |
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Range Rover equivalent
I am close to ordering a new X3Mc (my2020) from a dealer in NJ.
Out of curiosity, I visited the Range Rover showroom across the street to scope out an equivalent or similar. My wife liked the new Range Rover Velar which is roughly the same size and I got a quote for the R-Dynamic P380 with a price of $87k. This vehicle was closer to an x3 M40i! I am missing something with why Range Rover command such a high price (Apart from the badge!)???. |
07-27-2019, 01:52 PM | #2 |
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The velar is a nonsense vehicle, your wife "liked" it because it has curves and it oozes outside elegance but it handles like an elephant on PCP. Your on the money with the X3Mc.
Don't compare BMW to Range Rover they'll be gone within the next 5 years given the overall financials of the company. |
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07-27-2019, 03:50 PM | #3 |
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Range Rovers can usually be purchased for 10-15% under msrp because they are so overpriced compared to competition.
You don't buy a RR for performance it's more luxury. Best comparison I think is the Jaguar F Pace SVR (yeah same company but similar price and performance to X3MC) |
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07-28-2019, 08:35 AM | #4 |
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Correct. I have been deciding between the X3/4MC and the F-Pace SVR (with the MB GLC63 also in the mix). I have decided on the SVR and placing the order this week. I have never had a Jag and have been a BMW guy for decades (two e36 M3s, e60 M5 for 11 years, and two e36 M3 race cars I raced with BMW Club Racing). I delayed the choice until seeing the X3M. I also considered the X4M. I decided on the SVR based on appearance, ride quality, sound and slightly larger interior. This will be my daily driver and will be making some long-distance trips. Also some other details such as apparent lack of remote start in the X3/4. The price is virtually the same. There is not a wrong choice to be made here.
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I totaled my 2019 X3 M40i and have been waiting for MY2020. X3M is tempting - wish it had ID7 and trailer option (if it had these, I would have pulled the trigger and placed my order weeks ago).
That said, I've had lots of time to check out alternatives. I test drove the F-Pace and i-Pace. I find both lacking. Both make me long for the X3 back. Rover is basically same as F-Pace. In the Jag / Rover area, I am less enthused about the electronics packages. I am a techie and love the BMW new screen and display options (and all the many configuration items contained there in). I wasn't as keen on fit and finish the the BMWs as well. Cars are nice.. but after 8 months driving the X3 M40i (loaded with every option), I haven't found anything else even close to making me want to change.
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Speaking about Rovers, I've had an opportunity to drive a range rover evoque once while we rented it at https://realcar.nyc/rent-a-range-rover-evoque during our business trip and I have to say the car felt really nice. Not sure if other models behave the same but that one was a pleasure to drive.
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There is also RR Velar SVAutobiography. It’s basically a more elegant and luxurious version of the F-Pace SVR. However, for a V8/550 hp car it’s surprisingly slow (4.3 sec C&D test).
https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...dynamic-drive/ |
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I've heard similar stories from multiple owners. Driving dynamics are up to par though. |
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I work for one of the largest JLR dealers in the north east. Some of these comments are hilarious. 10-15% off lol.... Maybe on BMWs which are mass produced in the United States, Mexico and China, but you absolutely don’t see reductions like that anywhere on any JLR product. Different demographic of vehicle, different purposes. Nothing we currently offer, outside on an SV or SVR can keep up with the M brand, but that’s not really the vehicles appeal. If you want a quality interior, with great on road comfort and composure then a Rover is for you, but don’t expect a regular velar or evoque to be equal on the backroads to an M. Oh and reliability issues are blown way out of proportion. Sold my sister a R Sport F Pace 6 months ago, has not had a single rattle, or issue thus far. There are horror stories with every brand.
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With your long history of BMW ownership, I'm curious if a part of you is missing the Gestalt of the M lines? I ask because we also took a break from BMW and tried a number of different Mnfrs, but at the end of the day none of them completely fit the bill for us. We're back now and although I won't say never, I honestly don't see us leaving again. |
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