[slowdown_dan]

Originally Posted by VetteGuy

Why are we still beating this dead horse? Photoshop it, Photoshop this again, then Photoshop it some more. Let the poor fucking horse be and move on!!!!

Nothing drives engagement like a good controversy. Sophomore (or younger) level marketing.

These haven't been out on the road to any decent extent for the crowds to grow indifferent to it yet, thus this topic will be covered many more times.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by Jcali86

Why is everyone so scared of change? Go buy an M8 if you like that boring front end.

If an M8 were the price of an M3/M4 your comment would make sense. Until then...

[seis-speed]

Originally Posted by Jcali86

Why is everyone so scared of change? Go buy an M8 if you like that boring front end.

Change is fine, but for many, it does not look good at all and borders on comical. I was hoping it would grow on me....

This is from someone who plans on buying a G80 for the manual transmission (I will wait for the CT5-V Blackwing to be revealed) even though I hate the front grilles, so not a hater on the car, I plan on owning one, but would love an alternative front-end.

[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

It seems crazy to think Prior Design would even consider anything but the red design.

[nicksm3]

Originally Posted by ParkNuts

Then don't you dare ever think about putting aftermarket wheels on your car............

Um.....much different scenario here but nice try

[RyanBMW]

Damn, the smaller grille design looks so much better!!

[slowdown_dan]

Car design aesthetics can get away with a totally unique exterior design when some performance/engineering aspect makes the car unique/and or rare and therefore desirable.

When a car has a controversial exterior design and nothing under the skin to truly make it stand out in the crowd, something happens to its standing as an enthusiasts car.

That something is, imo extreme depreciation.

A lot of people who buy the car won't care, because as long as it's the newest anything, they'll have it.

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by Dog Face Pony Soldier

If an M8 were the price of an M3/M4 your comment would make sense. Until then...

And if the M8 came in manual.

[///Mcarfan]

Originally Posted by frankiebones

This is perhaps the most nonsensical "anti grille" post I've seen.

You're saying that this aftermarket product will basically sweep us off our feet and cause us to replace a factory bumper that polls conducted after the reveal indicate the majority of the forum members actually like.

Ha nonsensical? LOL how is this more non sensical than all the "you all hate it now you'll get use to it later"?

We all know you're buying one by now, just make you you stick with the original lung grill now.

[MParallel]

I like the first design as a standalone.

Not sure if I would change the front of a new car.

I'm slowly getting used to the new look. I'm sure in some time, I will look at the old style kidneys and think they look weirdly small.

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by ///Mcarfan

Ha nonsensical? LOL how is this more non sensical than all the "you all hate it now you'll get use to it later"?

We all know you're buying one by now, just make you you stick with the original lung grill now.

You're justifying something you said by comparing it with something equally ridiculous that others have said. I disagree with both sentiments but I disagree with yours slightly more (because yours is predicated on an expensive aftermarket purchase).

I liked it from the beginning. Others warmed up to it. Here's what you're missing: most people decided they didn't like it based on leaks and pics of camouflaged test mules. When they "came around" later, it was because they saw the actual car in most cases.

[Tiago@VRSF]

I'm guessing they'll have to relocate quite a few auxiliary coolers and sensors in order to pull this off.

[Jimjamz]

Originally Posted by butte2butte

The e46 is unique in that it was the last NA 6 in an m car.

The e9x is unique in that it had the first and last v8 put into an m car.

The f8x m is...idk. Not that unique, historically speaking.

The g8x m will be remembered most for it's ___________ the same way the 996 911 is remembered most for its ____________. Resale Values will likely follow the same depreciation curve.

The F80 will go down as one of best looking M3s. When the G80 CSL comes out buyers will pay twice as much for a car that weighs the same as the F80.

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by R N M

This poll is useless as I’m BANNED from G80 main forum and can’t vote. Ton of ppl got banned from G80 section who voiced any negative sentiments towards the new grill design.

Isn't this thread in the same section as that poll?

[R N M]

Originally Posted by frankiebones

Please keep us posted as to BMW's response lol (especially when all the NYC dealerships have a waiting list to get an allocation so presumably the car will sell).

I personally have always enjoyed seeing your posts and hope if you get a GTS you will still drop by these forums from time to time.

Have you seen BMWNYC dealer’s IG lol
Plenty of ppl hate the grill. They have a handful of ppl on a waiting list - is that a list even?

Let me know in March of 2021 if there ppl still waiting on this thing.

[ICantDrive4Sht]

Damn, all the people over the internet saying that first red pic is how it should've been. That's an M8. It's allready been done lol

[R N M]

Originally Posted by frankiebones

Isn't this thread in the same section as that poll?

No - i have access to Photos/Video but not Main Discussion (General Forum) section.
Been banned since early September.....

[NathObeaN]

Wow... leave it to an aftermarket company to create a far more appealing visual design than highly paid, highly skilled designers who work for one of the world's largest automotive manufactures. Figures!

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by R N M

Have you seen BMWNYC dealer’s IG lol
Plenty of ppl hate the grill. They have a handful of ppl on a waiting list - is that a list even?

Let me know in March of 2021 if there ppl still waiting on this thing.

There's 12 people on the base G80 list at my dealership and there's 6 people on the competition G80 list. Kinda crazy the manual people are lined up twice as long as the 8AT.

That's 18 people on the G80 list alone. That's about the same as the F80.

WAIT HOLD ON! Are YOU saying people on IG have NOT NICE things to say?

Of course plenty of people hate it. It's a huge design change and it won't be for everyone. At least BMW has the balls to do SOMETHING different.

[R N M]

^
How about giving us a unique NA inline 6 engine with 9k redline? That would something different.

All they need to do is look at Porsche - evolutionary design with ultimate performance for enthusiasts = huge success for M. Giant grills that don’t add any performance or styling benefits are fixing things that weren’t broken.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by j2dad5389

Is anyone else as curious as I as to how the aftermarket can fix the issues? It seems impossible to do because in order to get the usual grill look we have all grown to love there needs to be some sort of body panel underneath the grills. Which is simply not there to begin with because of how the grills are built into the car. Sorry if the wording is confusing, I'm not sure how to explain it. I'll attach pictures lol

If you remove the bumpers from the G8x, there will be nothing but gaping giant holes. There needs to be some body panel connecting in the bottom half to make that seamless/original look from the F8x series of a normal kidney grill.

No it is not the case.

That big grill is "fake" and is only part of the front bumper facia cosmetic design. If you look inside the grill, you'll see that the bumper structure is still very present and obstructs ~30% of the grill area. The bumper structure is essential fro crash worthiness certification. Audi, Lexus and others do the exact same thing with their "big grills" that span the bumper section.

So it is theoretically possible to make an aftermarket bumper cover that uses a body coloured panel to cover the structural bumper element. This would visually split the front and bottom grill elements without affecting airflow.

[M2PDX]

Originally Posted by frankiebones

You're justifying something you said by comparing it with something equally ridiculous that others have said. I disagree with both sentiments but I disagree with yours slightly more (because yours is predicated on an expensive aftermarket purchase).

I liked it from the beginning. Others warmed up to it. Here's what you're missing: most people decided they didn't like it based on leaks and pics of camouflaged test mules. When they "came around" later, it was because they saw the actual car in most cases.

I'm baffled by the folks on here who literally get angry if any of us want to challenge or question BMW's designers? The MOST followed posts on here are fabulous posts of members who MODIFY their BMWs. The aftermarket is a MULTI-billion dollar industry. So, what is suddenly bad or wrong with this particular modification - - a simple front end appearance modification? Isn't this just the front end version of adding a carbon fiber diffuser and rear spoiler to the back end? Owners want a different look. No big deal.

frankie, if you like the angry beaver design, GREAT! I'm happy for you. You need do nothing further.

For others, an aftermarket front grill might be just the ticket, allowing them to drive a car that looks attractive to them, and is still a BMW!

It's a free country. Let's value and embrace diversity of thought.