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"The Competition model has an automatic transmission, so why choose it?"
Do you see how the question is answered 100% by personal preference? The concept of value doesn't enter into my decision making process at all, if I was looking for value I wouldn't be buying or leasing another $80,000 BMW. I want this car because it (will hopefully) deliver an exciting and engaging driving experience and for me, the manual shifting experience is part of the fun. |
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Therefore, I can see Porsche, BMW, Mazda having at least one model catering to the driving enthusiasts. It may get pricey though, but there will still be a profitable market because we now only have 3 options.
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The implications to the economy are nearly incalculable. 4 million people make their living in the US alone "driving" in some way shape or form.
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I know, I just repeat the known arguments, but just to say that I don't have the idea that BMW did much care about the MT everything considered and hopes for die hard MT fans to buy them nevertheless. I'am very anxious to read the first serious reviews of the MT (and AT). |
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So I'm with you in that, for me, the driving experience surpasses anything related to detrimental performance.
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I'am not referring to a cars length of difference, I don't care. I refer to 100Nm almost everywhere, and no doubt that makes a huge difference.
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Also, buy an Auto then.
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This should, but won't end the thread.
Like I said, if you are awaiting the reviews on the 6MT versus the 8AT to make your decision, then you are not "one of us."
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Koen, the difference is that people in Belgium (like you and me) we CAN drive a manual because that's what we learn to get our licence... We know how to drive it, we just pick the AT because we see it as a valueble extra over manuel gearbox, it's a whole different story then for the Americans.
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Exactly!
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A clutch with a longer travel distance is also safer. Jeez. You, my friend, need to stop complaining. Get a job at BMW, infiltrate them from the inside out, and change things as you see fit....or maybe start looking at the glass as half empty.
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Fair enough, but totally unacceptable in my mind. |
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Yes, it still is a mighty iron fist.
But...(here I go again) many will dream of the extra they could awake with a few tweaks. BMW could have done that themselves with some extra effort whilst assuring the buyer is fully protected with the guarantee. I can imagine that something harmless as a 2$ clutchstop renders guarantee void for the entire synchro-mesh and clutch. |
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When thinking about a manual, enjoying the driving AND shifting experience should be the priority. Manual transmissions are more enjoyable with linear engine curves. While yes the manual is lesser in peak power it's likely better matched to a manual driving experience. There is a such thing as having too much power especially in different places in the rev range to maximize driving experience for the manual vs driving experience for the auto. |
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