08-06-2019, 12:42 PM | #23 |
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“Not sure if I follow the distinction you are drawing between blipping the throttle and rev-matching.”
To me Rev matching is what every manual driver do when they use the throttle to in a synchronized manner use the throttle to match the engine speed with the new gear while letting out the clutch. It’s done for up and downshifts with two pedals, the throttle and the clutch. No brake pedal or throttle blip involved. Heel toe action involves all three pedals and a throttle blip. It’s only used at downshifts. With a blip there is no synchronized move of the throttle and clutch to rev. match at the exact time of closing the clutch, instead you blip to overshoot the gears speed so you can for an instant instant let go of the throttle and get back on the brake while in the same time closing the clutch. The auto rev. Match of the M3 blip the throttle on downshifts and rev. Matches on upshifts. It is a nice feature that IMO does not take away much if anything from the joy of MT driving. Last edited by solstice; 08-06-2019 at 01:33 PM.. |
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Absolutely and that’s why I said into corners not through corners. You want to be firmly in gear when it’s time to get on the throttle. At the same time you don’t want to complete downshifting too early either especially if you are coming to a sharp corner requiring a very low gear to exit since the engine braking will be too aggressive ( or risk a money shift ). As someone mentioned it’s good habit to downshift in the braking zone but the braking zone is not often/always a straight line with no lateral forces so a jolt free downshift at corner entry is a important tool if you are chasing lap times.
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The pedal height you can change with push rod in a clockwise direction to increase the height of the brake pedal. Or counterclockwise to lower the hight. Also when you track the car, the brake will fade so the travel will change. Better brakes are more consistent and, brake fluid is BIG factor too!!! This loss of pedal feel or pedal consistency is a function of brake fluids with decreased chemical and high-temperature Racing brake fluid resulting in reduced or almost nonexistent compressibility and an absolute and consistent pedal feel.
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I'm fine with less power. To make up for that, I would like hydraulic steering. Or electric steering, I don't really care, as long as it feels like my old e90. BMW won't sell that may MT models anyway, so how much of a dent would hydraulic steering make to their overall gas mileage requirements. Or if they go electric, why not tune it for the people who buy manuals transmissions. I'm fairly sure that someone who buys an M3/M4 with a manual transmission is not looking for numb steering.
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I wonder how much it would hurt emissions and regulation compliance? Some Japanese cars still offer it new, but I imagine cost for a single model would make this proposal impossible? Not everyone loves hydraulic the way I do, but for my tastes, the feel is vastly superior. I am hopeful that the G80 EPS will be improved since the engineers have had many years to develop the system. |
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If the pedals are not ideal you can change how you move your foot. *Eliminate the word heel* and just focus on inputs from your foot. In some cars I have heel action, but some cars only work with little to no heel action (at least with my feet). I owned a Focus RS that I could only heel/toe with no heel motion....inner-foot/outer-foot was how I heel/toed. You could call it big-toe/pinky-toe..... On my 1M, I can do heel/toe with heel motion. This would be my sequence: Inside of foot (Break), hold break, roll foot to get rpms’s up (outside of foot on gas) *shift* then roll foot off of break onto the gas pedal. Works easier for me in lighter shoes and is a blast to practice. As always, YMMV..... ![]() Here is an example in a Focus RS. I am guessing he had the same issue as myself in this car, thus eliminated heel motion. Last edited by seis-speed; 09-05-2019 at 12:55 AM.. |
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Who the hell wants to rev match themselves... i see there are so many professional race car drivers on this forum... I can only imagine how many burned clutches they had... if anything auto rev matching is an addition to the pleasure of driving a manual not the other way around! I do however agree, there should be an option to simply turn it on or off in any mode! Personally I would always keep it on as there is no way I can always perfectly rev match as good as the computer, specially on the racetrack!
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I want a RWD or AWD 6 speed with all of the power. I'm not spending a ton of money (which i'm sure this thing will be), for a car with power levels depending on which transmission you pick.
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I've always planned to order a 6MT example, but at this point I think I'm out completely on the G80. I spent a good bit of time looking over a G20 last week, and the car is simply too big. It's as big or bigger (sure feels bigger) than my E39 M5 I sold last year, and I'm just not interested in such a massive M3. Next to my E90 M3, the G20 looks humongous. One has to wonder just how long this "turn a 3-series into a 5-series" thing will continue. Even though the G20 is now at the size of an E23 7-series (actually it has a longer wheelbase and is wider and taller than the E23), it somehow manages to appear and feel even larger.
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