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Just traded my C8 for an M4Comp. Xdrive
Since these two models are cross shopped and to a certain extent competitors I thought I'd provide my take on what advantages one has over the other - I owned my 2LT Z51 C8 for 1yr and 2 days. My M4 is being finished this week so I haven't driven one yet, but I did get to sit in and startup an M3 when I dropped off my C8 trade at my BMW Dealer, so granted my exposure is limited on the M4 as of this moment, but I have had two new X5's in the past 2 yrs for what that's worth:
Advantages of the C8 over the M4: - Exterior Styling (Subjective yes, but I think objectively the C8 wins here) - DCT - Removable transparent roof - Easy available dealer network - Engine Sound Advantages of the M4 over the C8: - Interior Styling - Solid Transmission - Power - XDrive - Stereo System - Interior Storage - CF Inside & Out - Wheel Style (Yes subjective) - Rear seating - Seat style/comfort - Steering Wheel thickness and quality - Drive Record - M1 & M2 Buttons - Tuning Potential - Power Trunk - 360 Camera - Drive Assist - Uniqueness - Materials quality - Gauges - IDrive 7 - HVAC Controls - Radio Preset buttons - Adaptive Cruise - Exhaust Tips - Better overall tech (Kind of a big thing) - Availability - Gas mileage I'll leave driving impressions out of this since I've not yet driven the G82... When I get mine I may add that since I know you're ALL so interested in my opinions Last edited by Garycoral; 10-21-2021 at 11:57 AM.. |
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It was smart to let go for the hot stingray just less than a week before the C8 z06 debut.
Once that debuts, i think the high markups for stingrays will drop tremendously. You did a smart thing. The real beast of the C8 debuts next tuesday. |
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Having driven the C8 over a 2 days Turo rental, I can make some comparisons to my M3X as well, as well as to my 2016 M4 which I replaced.
C8 pros: -Exterior styling, I'm getting some crazy attention from both cars, but I personally like the exterior styling for the C8 more. I've always been a fan of the corvettes in general and loved the designs. I can't wait to see how the Z06 will look like. -DCT, a HUGE improvement over the C7 automatic which was terrible and slow and often hit the redline limiter before it registered the paddle shift. I'm always a fan of DCT's and I feel like it was more involving than the ZF8 on the M3 too. -Grip, insane grip for a RWD car, I attribute this to the mid-engine setup. -Rear engine RWD setup, this feels more like a true race car experience. -Engine sound - the V8 is def a plus, I can't wait to hear the Z06 flat plane crank. Although both the C8 and the M3X are a bit tamed compared to some of the other beasts. M3X pros: -Xdrive - this is an absolute game changer. Huuuge improvement over the M4 lack of control and grip. Xdrive is a must to accommodate anything over 500hp with a front engine IMO, and allows for more headroom for tuning later on. My tuned M4, even with upgraded PS4S tires, were sliding around everywhere, I knew from then on that my next M3/M4 would be AWD if given the choice. The xdrive is well done, using MDM I don't feel like I'm losing the fun factor that the RWD system has. Even if you want to go RWD with the xDrive there's an option to do that, with a 0-10 stage traction control. There's really no losing anything with the xDrive and I can't stress more that it's literally a win-win. I understand that there is some hardcore purists out there, but that's where the manual/RWD option comes in too. -Technology and infotainment system, the main screen on the M3X is higher resolution and nicer than the C8, the customizable dials and gauges are very well done as well. Additionally, the Apple Carplay is wireless on the M3X and I think it was only via USB on the C8 (not sure though). -Interior styling, even though the C8 is a huge improvement over the C7, the M3X interior is multiple levels above even the C8 IMO. Everything inside feels high quality and well done. I opted for the carbon fiber interior and absolutely love it. -Bucket seats, this is a tremendous seat and not only holds you in place but extremely well fitting and comfortable even over long distances. Getting in and out isn't an issue for me either. I feel like it's still easier than getting in and out of the C8. -Practicality - a sports sedan vs a 2 seat dedicated race car. 5 seats, 4 doors, good sized usable trunk, different driving modes accomodating passengers including children/babies. A usable family sedan that is incredibly fun as well, this car honestly hits the "sports sedan" perfectly. I really don't think there's another sports sedan as fun and as practical at the same time. This goes with almost every philosophy of the M3 design, including the switch from DCT to ZF8 which shifts more smoothly with less jerkiness which my passengers complained about a lot from my F82 M4 DCT. In the end, the M3X will be the best DD and everyone's waiting on the Z06 (with a wait list of >2 years now) for their weekend track car. I'm really excited for the Z06, since that will literally tick every fancy for my weekend track car. Last edited by Solarium; 10-23-2021 at 06:37 PM.. |
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I'm in the mid 100's on macmulkin's waiting list. I got on pretty much immediately after the stingray debuted back in 2019 lol. I was actually surprised i was that far up the list when i got on. If Mac gets about 200 z06's per MY, i'm in line to receive the first MY. And i'm not getting off the list. Doesn't matter the price or power output. |
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10-21-2021, 07:31 AM | #11 |
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I've owned 5 or 6 Corvettes, the last was a C7. You really cannot beat it, bang for the buck.
The downside is that it's still a Chevy. I never considered the C8 because of the transmission. And for me, personally, I don't think it's attractive. I did follow one around VIR once, and it is fast.
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I thought the C8 interior looked pretty decent when I checked one out (didn't get to drive it) but maybe it loses luster after time behind the wheel?
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The C8 does absolutely nothing for me. I do not think its a good looking car, at all. |
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At first the ME C8 looked fresh and interesting. WIDE stance gave it tons of road presence. But then it got old quickly. The massive rear overhang, tacky trim on the side vents make it look cheap IMO. Of course I scratched it off my list the moment I heard no manuals are being offered. |
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I am also in the camp of thinking the C8 looks a awkward. From some angles it is interesting when lowered with decent wheels, but overall I prefer the looks of the C7. I grew up in a Corvette house and have been interested in picking up a C7 Z06. Just never got around to driving one.
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[QUOTE=Garycoral;28165042]
Advantages of the C8 over the M4: - Exterior Styling (Subjective yes, but I think objectively the C8 wins here) Congrats on your purchase, as a point of clarification that often comes up since the new grilles were unleashed upon us, there is no such thing as objectively winning an exterior styling competition. If 1 million people hate the Pontiac Aztec and 5 people love it, the majority of people prefer it for sure. However, it is still a subjective preference. Objective by definition means not influences by a person's personal views. With that being said, I love both cars lol and if the C8 had a manual I would've gotten one as a weekend car.
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Where did you sell your vette if you don't mind me asking? I'm currently trying to see if I can sell my 21' RS5 SB for enough to cover the payoff and get an M3, but so far i've been offered pretty meh offers from Carvana and Carmax. I don't think they're quite appraising these vehicles right. I've gotten a pretty good trade in offer at one place which w/ the trade in would give me just about pay off, but they didn't have the car I want. I'm trying to see if maybe private party somewhere would be the way to go.
Also $5000 off MSRP? That's pretty surprising! From what I understanding getting MSRP is a good deal these days. |
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Best I could do is MSRP, and I have a relationship with my dealership over the years. First time I'm ever paying sticker before incentives. |
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Ahhhh... I'm not sure how he got to the $5K off (Technically $4810) - I'm netting a check for $5833 from the deal - Obviously no finance spiff or anything like that... And the best part was this required ZERO negotiation - This was his "1st Pencil" as they say in the car biz.
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