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      09-05-2021, 12:36 PM   #1
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My car is lowered on the mss kit but if I remember right I was getting the sound before hand.

It's pretty much at all times forward(pulling out of my garage), reverse(turning), and especially any time im turning. To the point that if you just do a slow tight circle it continuously clicks.

Am I the only one?

Id really like to take it into the dealer but I'm dreading putting it all back to stock.


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My car is lowered on the mss kit but if I remember right I was getting the sound before hand.

It's pretty much at all times forward(pulling out of my garage), reverse(turning), and especially any time im turning. To the point that if you just do a slow tight circle it continuously clicks.

Am I the only one?
Have you seen this video? If you have similar noise this might be the solution.
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I have 15F/13R Burger Motorsport spacers.

The front left 'clicks' in reverse with hard clockwise steering.

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The clicking is the left front wheel rubbing against vent blades. To date, the blades remain intact. Others have reported them getting cracked off. Personally, not a concern either way, intact or cracked off.

Is that your 'click'? Not sure, but sounds very familiar to me. Perhaps your click occurs more often because you are lowered vs. spacer only? Perhaps you have both spacers and lowered?

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Yeah I just watched that, unfortunately I currently have no way at home to jack my car up and take a peak to see if it's the same design as on the G cars.

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I actually had the fins cut out of my car which got rid of that problem all together.

It's more of a metallic "click" or "tink" sound.
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For those who do not know what the vent blades (or fins) are that are in reference and 'clicking,' here is a pic. . . notice my wheel is turned full clockwise.

In the pic the vents are not catching the blades, nor do they ever catch except in reverse for some odd reason. Even then, they just barely 'clip' them and make that clicking noise.

Now that I look closer at photo, I notice there are two blades that are cracked on their margins, and right in line with the tire apex on the wheel well.

I suspect, sooner or later, they will get broken off. No worries on my part, as it will have no consequence to form or function of the vehicle.

Sounds like TrentMeister just cut them off, which is not a bad idea . . . just rip the bandaid off and get rid of the problem all together. I would consider doing that, but I have no easy access to the inner margin of the blades short of taking the wheel off.

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EDIT: I now also realize why the 'clicking' only occurs in REVERSE. The blades are canted downward. So, in reverse, the tire clips the bottom margin of the blade. Going forward, the tire would only glide over the downward canter.

Obviously the tire just barely clips the blades or they would have been torn off immediately the first time I put it into reverse.

Still no idea why I have thus far only noticed it on the drivers side??? I would assume it happens on the passenger side with counterclockwise turn of the wheel. Perhaps it does and I have not noticed it from the driver's side???
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For those who do not know what the vent blades (or fins) are that are in reference and 'clicking,' here is a pic. . . notice my wheel is turned full clockwise.

In the pic the vents are not catching the blades, nor do they ever catch except in reverse for some odd reason. Even then, they just barely 'clip' them and make that clicking noise.

Now that I look closer at photo, I notice there are two blades that are cracked on their margins, and right in line with the tire apex on the wheel well.

I suspect, sooner or later, they will get broken off. No worries on my part, as it will have no consequence to form or function of the vehicle.

Sounds like TrentMeister just cut them off, which is not a bad idea . . . just rip the bandaid off and get rid of the problem all together. I would consider doing that, but I have no easy access to the inner margin of the blades short of taking the wheel off.

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EDIT: I now also realize why the 'clicking' only occurs in REVERSE. The blades are canted downward. So, in reverse, the tire clips the bottom margin of the blade. Going forward, the tire would only glide over the downward canter.

Obviously the tire just barely clips the blades or they would have been torn off immediately the first time I put it into reverse.

Still no idea why I have thus far only noticed it on the drivers side??? I would assume it happens on the passenger side with counterclockwise turn of the wheel. Perhaps it does and I have not noticed it from the driver's side???
I think it may have to do with the castor setting of factory alignment on the driver side vs passenger.
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How annoying
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How annoying
Not sure if that is a question, or a statement?

In the event it is a question, it is not annoying at all.

The number of instances I am in reverse and turning wheel hard clockwise are nominal, and the 'clicking' is at the threshold of even being perceptable.

Worst case scenario is a couple blades get ripped off the vent inside wheel well. If it was truly annoying, I would just cut the couple blades out. I figure they will just pop off at some point on their own.

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A statement, I would be annoyed, poor measuring/quality check IMO (I wonder if it’s a PZero issue or all tires)
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A statement, I would be annoyed, poor measuring/quality check IMO (I wonder if it's a PZero issue or all tires)
All tires, we're on pretty hefty spacers
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Hi anyone with updates on a solution or reason to why this issue is happening? I’m having the same click noise on my left front wheel
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Hi anyone with updates on a solution or reason to why this issue is happening? I’m having the same click noise on my left front wheel
What kind of click?
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Hi anyone with updates on a solution or reason to why this issue is happening? I’m having the same click noise on my left front wheel
I am having same click but when the car is cold. Goes away after 10 minutes. Anyone have an answer no mods done on my car all stock.
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For those who do not know what the vent blades (or fins) are that are in reference and 'clicking,' here is a pic. . . notice my wheel is turned full clockwise.

In the pic the vents are not catching the blades, nor do they ever catch except in reverse for some odd reason. Even then, they just barely 'clip' them and make that clicking noise.

Now that I look closer at photo, I notice there are two blades that are cracked on their margins, and right in line with the tire apex on the wheel well.

I suspect, sooner or later, they will get broken off. No worries on my part, as it will have no consequence to form or function of the vehicle.

Sounds like TrentMeister just cut them off, which is not a bad idea . . . just rip the bandaid off and get rid of the problem all together. I would consider doing that, but I have no easy access to the inner margin of the blades short of taking the wheel off.

///AVM

EDIT: I now also realize why the 'clicking' only occurs in REVERSE. The blades are canted downward. So, in reverse, the tire clips the bottom margin of the blade. Going forward, the tire would only glide over the downward canter.

Obviously the tire just barely clips the blades or they would have been torn off immediately the first time I put it into reverse.

Still no idea why I have thus far only noticed it on the drivers side??? I would assume it happens on the passenger side with counterclockwise turn of the wheel. Perhaps it does and I have not noticed it from the driver's side???
What size front tires are you running? Mine seem to have more space.
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Not sure if that is a question, or a statement?

In the event it is a question, it is not annoying at all.

The number of instances I am in reverse and turning wheel hard clockwise are nominal, and the 'clicking' is at the threshold of even being perceptable.

Worst case scenario is a couple blades get ripped off the vent inside wheel well. If it was truly annoying, I would just cut the couple blades out. I figure they will just pop off at some point on their own.

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Why not turn the wheels all the way to the right (clockwise) and either take an angle grinder or sander and remove about a 1/4 inch of material? Seems it would result in the fins being intact, while stopping the noise.
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For those who do not know what the vent blades (or fins) are that are in reference and 'clicking,' here is a pic. . . notice my wheel is turned full clockwise.

In the pic the vents are not catching the blades, nor do they ever catch except in reverse for some odd reason. Even then, they just barely 'clip' them and make that clicking noise.

Now that I look closer at photo, I notice there are two blades that are cracked on their margins, and right in line with the tire apex on the wheel well.

I suspect, sooner or later, they will get broken off. No worries on my part, as it will have no consequence to form or function of the vehicle.

Sounds like TrentMeister just cut them off, which is not a bad idea . . . just rip the bandaid off and get rid of the problem all together. I would consider doing that, but I have no easy access to the inner margin of the blades short of taking the wheel off.

///AVM

EDIT: I now also realize why the 'clicking' only occurs in REVERSE. The blades are canted downward. So, in reverse, the tire clips the bottom margin of the blade. Going forward, the tire would only glide over the downward canter.

Obviously the tire just barely clips the blades or they would have been torn off immediately the first time I put it into reverse.

Still no idea why I have thus far only noticed it on the drivers side??? I would assume it happens on the passenger side with counterclockwise turn of the wheel. Perhaps it does and I have not noticed it from the driver's side???
What size front tires are you running? Mine seem to have more space.
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Bumping this. I just noticed my front end click/ticks once or twice when I go full lock to lock left to right. I hear it pulling into and out of my garage. I can do it on command just turning my wheels side to side. My fins are shaved down and not rubbing. Not sure if this is a normal sound or something to do with me lowering it. But I just noticed it. Anyone find the cause of the clicking noise?

Mine is very faint. It's like one or two max single click/tick sounds.
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Super common on lots of BMWs - have the strut clamp bolt torqued to spec. There’s no downside to doing this, best case it fixes the click and worst case your bolt is just guaranteed to be at spec
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Here is a video of the sound I hear.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_hiAbt20_FM
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This was a known issue on the "F" generation BMW..

It sounds like a faint "tick tick tick" noise coming from the driver side wheel but only when pulling off at slow speeds.

BMW solution was two friction gaskets, one sandwich in-between the wheel hub and wheels and another between the hub and rotor.



https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...84575-9999.pdf


Clicking sound from front left wheel https://www.2addicts.com/forums/show....php?t=1283009

M2 ticking noise from front wheel area https://f87.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1819907
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This was a known issue on the "F" generation BMW, it sounds like a faint "tick tick tick" noise coming from the driver side wheel but only when pulling off at show speeds.

BMW solution was two flanges, between the wheel hub and wheels and another between the hub and rotor.



https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...84575-9999.pdf

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So my noise is actually almost like 2 drum sticks tapping against each other any time and any speed when the wheel is at more that 20degrees, and parking lot speeds.

It's progressively gotten worse as the miles go on.

Unfortunately I'm lowered so I know bmw won't even investigate and just say it's from the springs somehow.

Even though the sound is rotational and not based on the up and down movement.
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So my noise is actually almost like 2 drum sticks tapping against each other any time and any speed when the wheel is at more that 20degrees, and parking lot speeds.

It's progressively gotten worse as the miles go on.

Unfortunately I'm lowered so I know bmw won't even investigate and just say it's from the springs somehow.

Even though the sound is rotational and not based on the up and down movement.
I think mine is more based on up and down movement. I hear mine when leaving parking lots at slow speeds and my body moves up or down. But I also hear it when parked and just turning the wheels. Which lifts the car up when you go full lock one way or the other.
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