Winter tires in OEM 19/20 sizes

kiw1 · 09-21-2022, 10:09 AM

Thanks! I ordered 4 x 19s from them to go with my CSLs. Excited to get this on the car because we had snow flurries yesterday lol

Aalfred · 09-21-2022, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Draper

Alright friends...

PA5s are now up on the site!

You may be able to source the fronts in the US, but some have found these can be tricky to find.

Front:
https://paddleshifterz.com/product/m...e-85455a137f7/

Rear:
https://paddleshifterz.com/product/m...e-85455a62af0/

$1,855.14 for a full set of 4 with shipping to the US.

Enjoy!

Note: I have no affiliation with Paddleshifterz. They are just awesome to deal with and want to support them.

Thanks Draper !!! You are the man !!! Atleast I have a back up option if Im not able to find Conti's closer to my delivery time. Appreciate all your help

Aalfred · 09-21-2022, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kiw1

Thanks! I ordered 4 x 19s from them to go with my CSLs. Excited to get this on the car because we had snow flurries yesterday lol

Did Szab say he can mount these on the wheels and do TPMS and ship it in one box?

kiw1 · 09-21-2022, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Aalfred

Did Szab say he can mount these on the wheels and do TPMS and ship it in one box?

Unfortunately not, they will ship separately

smitpatel5 · 09-21-2022, 12:55 PM

First question:

Tire rack and other shops I called said I can take the stock rear comp wheel 20inch that's comes in the 285/30 tire into a 275/30 tire. Is that true? Can you place the stock wheel into a 275 wide tire even though it currently sits in a 285 width?

Second after a ton of research I found that the Vredestein Wintrac PRO is the best winter performance tire to keep the stock wheels! Anyone have any experience with them?

Also I plan on changing the setup to me stock front so 275/35/19 and rear of 275/30/20 so to my first question can I place the stock 285 wheel in a 275?

Thank you so much!

ffrost · 09-21-2022, 01:54 PM

Thanks for the helpful information Draper! Planning to order to be able to put on for the drive home from performance center delivery toward the end of the year.

BigMoh · 09-21-2022, 02:21 PM

Does anyone here have experience with the Pirelli "PZero Winter" model? That's what I'm leaning toward based on guidance from the dealership but I can't find many reviews on it. Seems to me this is Pirelli version of Michelin Alpin

Aalfred · 09-21-2022, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by smitpatel5

First question:

Tire rack and other shops I called said I can take the stock rear comp wheel 20inch that's comes in the 285/30 tire into a 275/30 tire. Is that true? Can you place the stock wheel into a 275 wide tire even though it currently sits in a 285 width?

Second after a ton of research I found that the Vredestein Wintrac PRO is the best winter performance tire to keep the stock wheels! Anyone have any experience with them?

Also I plan on changing the setup to me stock front so 275/35/19 and rear of 275/30/20 so to my first question can I place the stock 285 wheel in a 275?

Thank you so much!

I think tirerack is trying to push the Vreds a lot but it is still a good tire. I dont know if you can mount the 275 on the oem 285 width but 10mm doesnt too that much but u might have to confirm with them. In terms of the 275/30/20, it should be fine as the rolling diameter is 675 mm fronts vs 672 mm rears which are close and should be good

DocWeatherington · 09-21-2022, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draper

Alright friends...

PA5s are now up on the site!

You may be able to source the fronts in the US, but some have found these can be tricky to find.

Front:
https://paddleshifterz.com/product/michelin-pilot-alpin-5-275-35-r19-100v-bmw-winter-tire-85455a137f7/

Rear:
https://paddleshifterz.com/product/michelin-pilot-alpin-5-285-30r20-99v-bmw-winter-tire-85455a62af0/

$1,855.14 for a full set of 4 with shipping to the US.

Enjoy!

Note: I have no affiliation with Paddleshifterz. They are just awesome to deal with and want to support them.

Awesome post

smitpatel5 · 09-21-2022, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Aalfred

Quote:

Originally Posted by smitpatel5

First question:

Tire rack and other shops I called said I can take the stock rear comp wheel 20inch that's comes in the 285/30 tire into a 275/30 tire. Is that true? Can you place the stock wheel into a 275 wide tire even though it currently sits in a 285 width?

Second after a ton of research I found that the Vredestein Wintrac PRO is the best winter performance tire to keep the stock wheels! Anyone have any experience with them?

Also I plan on changing the setup to me stock front so 275/35/19 and rear of 275/30/20 so to my first question can I place the stock 285 wheel in a 275?

Thank you so much!

I think tirerack is trying to push the Vreds a lot but it is still a good tire. I dont know if you can mount the 275 on the oem 285 width but 10mm doesnt too that much but u might have to confirm with them. In terms of the 275/30/20, it should be fine as the rolling diameter is 675 mm fronts vs 672 mm rears which are close and should be good

Okay one person said now since something about a ration of stock set up being rear tires were bigger by 0.4% and with that's proposed winter set up said it make the rear ration smaller by 0.4% which is bad and it's even worse with an xdrive car which is what I have … I don't know what any of that means … I have some damn hw to do

Aalfred · 09-21-2022, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by smitpatel5

Okay one person said now since something about a ration of stock set up being rear tires were bigger by 0.4% and with that's proposed winter set up said it make the rear ration smaller by 0.4% which is bad and it's even worse with an xdrive car which is what I have … I don't know what any of that means … I have some damn hw to do

I read from another thread, you are allowed a max of 1% difference and the Xdrive should be Ok. Now im not a mechanical engineer and so cant give u a concrete answer but if you are really worried about sticking with OEM, just go with the PA5 or DWS06 if u can find them. The goodyear exhilarate is also a good one and appears to be in stock at tire rack. Maybe its better to keep it the same spec. Otherwise, u might have to get the BMW 829 OEM tire and wheel package that migh run about $4300

M3GALLY · 09-21-2022, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draper

Alright friends...

PA5s are now up on the site!

You may be able to source the fronts in the US, but some have found these can be tricky to find.

Front:
https://paddleshifterz.com/product/m...e-85455a137f7/

Rear:
https://paddleshifterz.com/product/m...e-85455a62af0/

$1,855.14 for a full set of 4 with shipping to the US.

Enjoy!

Note: I have no affiliation with Paddleshifterz. They are just awesome to deal with and want to support them.

You da man Draper !!!!

Oh and ordered! Now have to order jet black 826ms for my winter set! Have my cart loaded up on getbmwparts but waiting to see if a connect comes through

Spiewakov · 09-28-2022, 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draper

Alright friends...

PA5s are now up on the site!

You may be able to source the fronts in the US, but some have found these can be tricky to find.

Front:
https://paddleshifterz.com/product/m...e-85455a137f7/

Rear:
https://paddleshifterz.com/product/m...e-85455a62af0/

$1,855.14 for a full set of 4 with shipping to the US.

Enjoy!

Note: I have no affiliation with Paddleshifterz. They are just awesome to deal with and want to support them.

For some reason I am only getting the option to ship Express for $845USD.

Draper · 09-28-2022, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Spiewakov

For some reason I am only getting the option to ship Express for $845USD.

Weird.

I'd drop them a note and ask. They are very responsive.

Spiewakov · 09-28-2022, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Draper

Weird.

I'd drop them a note and ask. They are very responsive.

Yea I did.
Did you end up getting new rims for the tires? Or you just kept them on the OEM 826Ms?

Draper · 09-28-2022, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Spiewakov

Yea I did.
Did you end up getting new rims for the tires? Or you just kept them on the OEM 826Ms?

I bought a set of the CSL (827M) wheels to run in summer. Will run the 826Ms for winter.

Spiewakov · 09-28-2022, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Draper

I bought a set of the CSL (827M) wheels to run in summer. Will run the 826Ms for winter.

I see! So I spoke to Paddleshifterz: They said they can no longer do the dhl eco and that they made a mistake with offering that as DHL does not allow them to ship the tires anyway but express for $845.00

kiw1 · 09-28-2022, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Spiewakov

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draper

I bought a set of the CSL (827M) wheels to run in summer. Will run the 826Ms for winter.

I see! So I spoke to Paddleshifterz: They said they can no longer do the dhl eco and that they made a mistake with offering that as DHL does not allow them to ship the tires anyway but express for $845.00

Bummer I must have been the last customer to benefit from that mistake

John4C · 09-28-2022, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Spiewakov

I see! So I spoke to Paddleshifterz: They said they can no longer do the dhl eco and that they made a mistake with offering that as DHL does not allow them to ship the tires anyway but express for $845.00

Brutal. I was about to order these today. I almost did last night when you could still get the Economy shipping but fell asleep before I did. UGH - back to the drawing board. I will try and find something locally I guess.

No negative anything meant towards PaddleShifterz, btw. It's not them at all (just to be clear).

Draper · 09-28-2022, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiewakov

I see! So I spoke to Paddleshifterz: They said they can no longer do the dhl eco and that they made a mistake with offering that as DHL does not allow them to ship the tires anyway but express for $845.00

Ah, bummer.

You might try and see if you can find the fronts in the US...then you're only shipping 2 tires from Germany.

DocWeatherington · 09-28-2022, 05:35 PM

Hopefully something pops up in the coming months for a winter tire on oems. I wonder if dealerships can do a "part" order from Germany....

sashah60 · 09-29-2022, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Hopefully something pops up in the coming months for a winter tire on oems. I wonder if dealerships can do a "part" order from Germany....

I called tire rack today and no options for stock rims. Had the same response for Darien parts department. Never had this issue with stock rim size before.

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smitpatel5 Lieutenant 544 Rep 432 Posts Drives: BMW M3Comp Xdrive (G80) Join Date: Aug 2022 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	First question: Tire rack and other shops I called said I can take the stock rear comp wheel 20inch that's comes in the 285/30 tire into a 275/30 tire. Is that true? Can you place the stock wheel into a 275 wide tire even though it currently sits in a 285 width? Second after a ton of research I found that the Vredestein Wintrac PRO is the best winter performance tire to keep the stock wheels! Anyone have any experience with them? Also I plan on changing the setup to me stock front so 275/35/19 and rear of 275/30/20 so to my first question can I place the stock 285 wheel in a 275? Thank you so much!
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