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This was C and D
Car and Driver adjusts for conditions ... and they said 2.1 to 60 which is with rollout ... C and D- the viagara of magazine tests LOL
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06-08-2022, 04:13 PM | #24 |
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LOL. Either way its the fastest car and still a relatively low hp rating. At the same time, its a fantastic GT car, a track monster with some GT flavor thrown in. A unicorn of cars. That said, GT cars are far and away the ones that I enjoy the most because as much as they make a riveting turbo engine, their NA engines are masterpieces that are unrivaled.
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The vacuum exhaust where as the normal 992 flat 6 and my GTS have much better exhaust sounds via OEM PSE. GT cars are not even to be discussed here LOL. I personally would not get the LW package for negligible tenths vs the 10 decibel sound increase inside... but thats me.
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Ah, yes, I went back to where I got the weight of the 992, and it was indeed the 991 Turbo, I don't know how I missed that the first time. And I just went off the M3 weight, that BMW Blog posted.
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7:17 to a 7:28 on The Nürburgring Nordschleife. Both driven by Christian Gebhardt, whos noted to be 6-10sec off the pro drivers pace.
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And BTW, Christian Gebhardt is a “pro driver”. He is slightly slower than factory drivers because he only gets one or two laps to set his laptime, which is also not always in ideal conditions. As opposed to factory drivers who are inherently more familiar with the car they drive and get multiple attempts and occasions to do their best lap.
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That changed significantly with the 992 relative to the 991. I find my 992 TT with PSE has a much throatier and louder sound than my buddies 992 C2S.
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Not sure which one is the cars was on the PZ4 but the BMW "track pack" comes from the factory with Sport Cup2s. I'll post a car with them from the factory, below.
Not really calling Christian an amateur, by any means. I was more or less referring to the guys that are literally getting paid by manufacturers to just drive. Like what you referred to.
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BMW have never published “factory” times for their “normal” ///M variants. As far as I know, they’ve only done so for the F82GTS, F8Xcs and G82CSL. That being said, the factory time of 7:16 for the CSL was done with even stickier PSC2R tires…
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If you think about the fact that the 992 TTS beats out cars like the Aventador SV, 812 Superfast, Pista, 720s - this is insane
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Could it be to prevent embarrassing the GTS 3? |
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I assume you meant GT3 here... If so, very possibly. Independent tests have shown less than a second (~0.7sec) per minute lap between the GT3 on PSC2 and TT-S on PZ4 around a short tight track that favours the GT3. The TT-S on PSC2 would more than likely trump the GT3 around a track. This is not new, the 991.2 TT-S was faster around the 'ring than the 991.2 GT3, both on r-comp tires. But the GT3 would still provide the more engaging driving experience IMO, lap times is not everything.
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I think they do it to sandbag some of the times because the turbo S would likely be just as quick as a GT3 on the same tire. |
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Were “track tires” ever offered as a factory option on the Carrera-S ?
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It will be interesting to see what the extra 40hp does to that 12s gap for the M3CS. And maybe that car gets the M5CS type light weight rear seats to further narrow the gap. It doesn’t seem impossible to close it with 5s making what is left an error of margin to the expected PSC2R advantage. Something seems slightly off with the CSL’s time, especially since we are comparing Sport Auto M4CX time to a BMW factory driver time…
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