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On the 4 series bmw integrated the design of the grill printed over the sensor to blend it in, I'm surprised M did not do the same. Building that frame around it highlights the offset sensor
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07-23-2020, 10:37 PM | #136 |
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That's the irony. A blind BMW fanboy would NOT like the design because it is anything but BMW. It looks like a Lexus had sex with a beaver. So I guess that makes fans of it just "a blind fanboy". Gosh it is fugly.
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They said, let's get rid of the Hofmeister Kink, the Zicker Line, the classic BMW rear light design (and sub it for Lexus), the angel eyes (and the hexagon angels), the kidney grills, the integrated 4 exhausts, the hidden muffler, a fluid design, etc. Then they said let's have sex with a bucktooth beaver for fun. And viola, your new 4 series. Enjoy. Last edited by thebmw; 07-26-2020 at 08:40 PM.. |
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07-24-2020, 12:42 PM | #139 | |
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Angels. BMW went from circles, to hexagonal, to what we see on the M3 which is partial hexagon. I think the completely circular angels were getting a little old fashioned. I can understand that people don't like the new design but it is essentially the hexagon design. Kidney grilles are there, but we get it, you don't like the large ones. Most don't and BMW knew it would receive a lot of backlash. Designs like this require time. I personally think it's bold and I'll reserve judgement for a year or two after I start seeing them on the road. Hidden gas tank? I'm starting to think you don't know much about cars. Integrated "4 exhausts". Are you talking about tail pipes? I have no idea what you're looking at, but they still look like real tail pipes to me. Four of them in the right shape and at about the same position as previous M cars. |
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Agree the circles were getting dated, but the new ones are starting to border a "L" (the LCI 5 series is a good example). Technically, the large vertical grills are real kidney grills when compared to the anatomical kidneys, but obviously we are all used to the horizontal "kidney" grills. The problem is, they do not look like kidneys at all. They look like bucktooth beavers, and not the attractive beavers either. Audi has done a pretty good job of refining the "large grill" theme. BMW, not so much. See this post for hidden muffler. I've owned over 60 cars, but sure, I don't know anything about cars. But at least I know what is fugly! https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=108 The 4 exhausts are housed in a square cut out. Looks really cheap and almost an afterthought. That's what I'm referring to. M's have always have nice looking exhausts and exhaust housing. I still think that someone in BMW design had sex with a beaver...until you can prove me wrong. Last edited by thebmw; 07-26-2020 at 08:41 PM.. |
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07-24-2020, 02:49 PM | #142 | |
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The entire exhaust presentation is what I'm referring to...the square cut out in the new gen vs the stylish integration in the previous gens. |
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07-24-2020, 03:27 PM | #144 | |
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The square cutout is really nitpicking isn't it? The E36 was fairly different and it's not like they all looked the same anyway. I really think the quad exhausts with real cylindrical tips is far more important to "heritage" than the shape of the cutout. I think it looks OK and more modern, and I think it's fine if you don't like it. I'm still undecided. But to claim that BMW is doing away with tradition because of it is too nit picky, IMO. I'm personally fine with the extended hoff kink mainly because I'm a sedan guy anyway and I don't have to deal with it. However, on many of their cars they've been moving to that extended kink so it's not a completely new design element either. |
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The square cutout might be viewed as nitpicking, but I don't think so. They could have made any shape or design. Why a clunky square design. It is simply not cohesive to the overall design. Nothing matches! The front and the rear are completely different design themes. Heck, ACC isn't even symmetrical! This is true in the M3, but definitely in the M4. That tells me 2 things. 1, they were lazy (I don't think so...everything is purposeful). Or 2, they were just making new shapes and designs to be different. Ding, Ding, Ding, that is true. Domagoj Dukec literally said that he is going to do everything differently just because. I think he is a little full of himself and his abilities. So if a circle looks good, he will use a square. If Hof kink looks good, he will change it. If a nice Zicker line shoulder looks good, he will get rid of it and other character lines. Bangle was evolutionary. Dukec isn't even revolutionary. He is apocalyptic. He destroys tradition and what looks good for the sake of being different. I think he wants to go all or nothing. Either he will be remembered as a great designer (can't see how that will happen with his watered down, Lexus-like and somewhat ugly designs) or go down as a failure. |
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I imagine one can opt out of the sensor, no? Curious if it would be standard. I imagine not?
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BMW needs to move the M3 front license plate bracket to the side, under the headlights. Move the parking sensors if needed. The M3 is not going to sell with a license plate looking tacked on in the center of the grille.
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Wow so much negativity from ppl on just a rendering! I for one am looking forward to seeing the actual car in the 'flesh' before forming an opinion. In fact I commend Bmw for stepping out the box and creating such a unique design, and I'm guessing it will most likely have a lot of road presence. Rest assured a year from now all the haters will want to own one.
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