[RichardGM4]

So I coded my HK from B&W back to stock Logic 7 and went back through all the settings and have two observations about the differences:

1. Other than having the sound profile options in the B&W setup, (Concert, Studio, etc plus Intensity), all of the other settings are the same, such as treble, bass, fade, balance and the EQ. Of course in B&W there is no Logic 7 option

2. IMO the best sound the stereo puts out across all of the options and profiles, including stock and B&W, is the B&W Concert profile with Intensity set to max and the EQ set with bass at 3 or 4 notches higher than treble. I would say it is noticeably better sound as it seems to have more depth

Also, there have been no issues in Concert with the rear speakers cutting out during any of the music I have listened to yet but it does happen in 1 or 2 of the other profiles

[BardG]

Originally Posted by RichardGM4

So I coded my HK from B&W back to stock Logic 7 and went back through all the settings and have two observations about the differences:

1. Other than having the sound profile options in the B&W setup, (Concert, Studio, etc plus Intensity), all of the other settings are the same, such as treble, bass, fade, balance and the EQ. Of course in B&W there is no Logic 7 option

2. IMO the best sound the stereo puts out across all of the options and profiles, including stock and B&W, is the B&W Concert profile with Intensity set to max and the EQ set with bass at 3 or 4 notches higher than treble. I would say it is noticeably better sound as it seems to have more depth

Also, there have been no issues in Concert with the rear speakers cutting out during any of the music I have listened to yet but it does happen in 1 or 2 of the other profiles

Thanks for doing this. Questions: Why did youswitch back? How do you feel about the HK sound now that you've found the settings you mentioned? (Is it acceptable or would you prefer it was better? Such as something like B&W)

[Flying05]

Originally Posted by RichardGM4

So I coded my HK from B&W back to stock Logic 7 and went back through all the settings and have two observations about the differences:

1. Other than having the sound profile options in the B&W setup, (Concert, Studio, etc plus Intensity), all of the other settings are the same, such as treble, bass, fade, balance and the EQ. Of course in B&W there is no Logic 7 option

2. IMO the best sound the stereo puts out across all of the options and profiles, including stock and B&W, is the B&W Concert profile with Intensity set to max and the EQ set with bass at 3 or 4 notches higher than treble. I would say it is noticeably better sound as it seems to have more depth

Also, there have been no issues in Concert with the rear speakers cutting out during any of the music I have listened to yet but it does happen in 1 or 2 of the other profiles

I have wanted to like the concert setting, but I keep going back to studio. Anything other than studio just sounds less clear or muffled if that makes sense. Yes it's a more surround experience, but maybe washed out is what I'm looking for. Just sounds dull.

[2022M4COMP]

Is it a Bowers and Wilkins or a burmester? No.

Is it more than you will ever need and good enough? Absolutely!

End of thread, mods can close

[BardG]

Originally Posted by 2022M4COMP

Is it a Bowers and Wilkins or a burmester? No.

Is it more than you will ever need and good enough? Absolutely!

End of thread, mods can close

Thank you

[BIGW0RM]

Technic posted about this a couple days ago. He is one of our master audio gurus here. He knows everything about our stereos and sells custom wiring harness to easily add an amp. Look what he had to say about coding the stereo.

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...5&postcount=27

[snareman]

Originally Posted by 2022M4COMP

Is it a Bowers and Wilkins or a burmester? No.

Is it more than you will ever need and good enough? Absolutely!

End of thread, mods can close

It may be more than you will ever need, but the rest of us want a little more.

[RichardGM4]

I only changed back to compare the two, after using the B&W settings for a week or two.

Personally I think the HK system is perfectly fine, I really don't understand the criticism or negative comments. However like I say, I'm not an audiophile but I do like a appreciate good quality music.

I do not believe there is a difference (reduction) in quality between the F8x and G8x HK systems, at least not for the 99% majority of us!

[AhsanU]

Originally Posted by 2022M4COMP

Is it a Bowers and Wilkins or a burmester? No.

Is it more than you will ever need and good enough? Absolutely!

End of thread, mods can close

Though I'm sure there's a bit of tongue in cheek humour here, I must say - this faulty logic can be applied to anything superfluous in life, which includes our cars as they're simply tools to get us from point A to point B. Do we need 500+ hp? No. Will a Kia Rio be all you need to accomplish the task of getting from point A to point B? Yes.

[2022M4COMP]

Originally Posted by AhsanU

Though I'm sure there's a bit of tongue in cheek humour here, I must say - this faulty logic can be applied to anything superfluous in life, which includes our cars as they're simply tools to get us from point A to point B. Do we need 500+ hp? No. Will a Kia Rio be all you need to accomplish the task of getting from point A to point B? Yes.

Was supposed to be somewhat. But also at the end of the day, these machines were made to be the ultimate DRIVING machine. Not the ultimate surround system not the ultimate DVR, iPod or what have you. So like I said, is it burmester good like my AMG GT, not even fucking close. however, it gets the job done

[BardG]

Originally Posted by AhsanU

Though I'm sure there's a bit of tongue in cheek humour here, I must say - this faulty logic can be applied to anything superfluous in life, which includes our cars as they're simply tools to get us from point A to point B. Do we need 500+ hp? No. Will a Kia Rio be all you need to accomplish the task of getting from point A to point B? Yes.

Well if I may: At a high level you're making a solid point. We don't need a very fast luxury car to get us from A to B, we don't need to tie up exponentially more money than basic transportation would cost. We don't need such a high level of technology to find our way to the next destination. No doubt about it.

That said, whether it be clothing, audio equipment, ingredients for a meal we plan to prepare, our kids school or sports equipment, we all have our preferences and desires we hope for.

In this case, questions about the sound system. How does it perform? Will it put a smile on our face? Will it make us satisfied us we made a good decision? Fair enough. IMHO

[Allerum]

Has anybody done the bavsound subwoofers and stage 1 complete speaker replacement? they are all plug and play.

https://www.bavsound.com/pages/build-your-kit?step=3

[KevinGS]

Originally Posted by Allerum

Has anybody done the bavsound subwoofers and stage 1 complete speaker replacement? they are all plug and play.

https://www.bavsound.com/pages/build-your-kit?step=3

I'll likely do this at some point, Allerum

[snareman]

Originally Posted by Allerum

Has anybody done the bavsound subwoofers and stage 1 complete speaker replacement? they are all plug and play.

https://www.bavsound.com/pages/build-your-kit?step=3

I'm curious as well. I'm thinking I'll likely do it on my M8 when it arrives. I'd consider it on my M4, but I won't have it long enough. It sounds like it'll be $2000-2500 total depending on the cost of the install. That's more car than I'm interested in taking apart myself. You can get a 10% off coupon from Bavsound. If you let them email you they will send you DAILY emails. I finally unsubscribed from them since my car isn't projected to be built til 5/28 week.

[BardG]

Originally Posted by Allerum

Has anybody done the bavsound subwoofers and stage 1 complete speaker replacement? they are all plug and play.

https://www.bavsound.com/pages/build-your-kit?step=3

Originally Posted by Allerum

Has anybody done the bavsound subwoofers and stage 1 complete speaker replacement? they are all plug and play.

https://www.bavsound.com/pages/build-your-kit?step=3

This is a good question, I'd really like to know truly how much of an improvement this would be. I know this is subjective.

I'll be coming off a B&W system which is very good, which is influencing my interest in this discussion. I will wait until I have some time in my G80 before I make any decisions.

[GoodGuyAvi]

look Ill be honest...on my previous F32 (2017) Harman K was better !!! I don't know whats happening...clarity is not the same.
ill try playing music via cable next time...maybe it will be better

[BardG]

Originally Posted by GoodGuyAvi

look Ill be honest...on my previous F32 (2017) Harman K was better !!! I don't know whats happening...clarity is not the same.
ill try playing music via cable next time...maybe it will be better

Originally Posted by GoodGuyAvi

look Ill be honest...on my previous F32 (2017) Harman K was better !!! I don't know whats happening...clarity is not the same.
ill try playing music via cable next time...maybe it will be better

Hmm, that is strange huh? One would think that the system would gradually improve overtime not degrade. Interesting point about playing through a hard connection, love to hear your impressions after that.

Everything I have in my library is lossless, but I've never been sure how that works across the car Wi-Fi system.. (I know it doesn't really transmit over Bluetooth). Maybe the wired connection would be better for this as well.

This all said, I'd rather not have to plug-in my phone every time I get in the car.

[Technic]

Originally Posted by GoodGuyAvi

look Ill be honest...on my previous F32 (2017) Harman K was better !!! I don't know whats happening...clarity is not the same.
ill try playing music via cable next time...maybe it will be better

What happened was that the HK system in the F3x was a 600W Class D amplifier, and the HK system in the G8x is a 464W Class AB amplifier. So it looks like you got used to the loudness of the Class D and not yet to the lower loudness of the Class AB.

[charlessimms82]

So my 530i is in route to Baltimore with the HK sound system. Had it years ago in my 05 Benz. Since then I’ve had an Infiniti Q70 with Bose , the Audi A6 but didn’t do any upgrade to the sound on that since it was just a second car. However in my F150 Platinum I have Bang& Olufson sound so now I have to have something in the car with a little juice to it. That standard sound doesn’t always cut it. I have no issue with the HK Sound personally.

[GoodGuyAvi]

Originally Posted by Technic

What happened was that the HK system in the F3x was a 600W Class D amplifier, and the HK system in the G8x is a 464W Class AB amplifier. So it looks like you got used to the loudness of the Class D and not yet to the lower loudness of the Class AB.

Oh wow I understood now.
But is also affecting high frequency on a low vol sound.
Damn….
Thank you for explaining

[BardG]

Originally Posted by Technic

What happened was that the HK system in the F3x was a 600W Class D amplifier, and the HK system in the G8x is a 464W Class AB amplifier. So it looks like you got used to the loudness of the Class D and not yet to the lower loudness of the Class AB.

Interesting thank you. Does this mean that the maximum volume will be lower, but it might have to be turned up a bit for comparable mid mid level volume?

High volumes aren't as important to me, rather I love good clarity in the mid-ranges. Does the amp change have any affect this part of the sound stage delivery?

[Technic]

Originally Posted by BardG

Interesting thank you. Does this mean that the maximum volume will be lower, but it might have to be turned up a bit for comparable mid mid level volume?

High volumes aren't as important to me, rather I love good clarity in the mid-ranges. Does the amp change have any affect this part of the sound stage delivery?

Power to the under-seat woofers in the G8x HK system is higher than the F3x HK system - 125W to 150W per woofer. The reduction in power is in the mid/tweeters, from 70W per mid/tweeter in the F3x HK system, to 25W per in the G8x HK system.

That could explain the apparent lack of clarity of the G8x HK system, when technically is that the power to the mid/tweeters was reduced to less than half of the F3x HK system.