[Mike02z]

I’d never buy a Tesla. Has nothing to do with disliking EV’s or Musk. My dislike of Tesla stems from horrible build quality, abysmal paint, and the fact that when you need any service you must go to Tesla and their prices for non warranty work is horrendous. They are not mechanics, they are simply parts swappers. Hard pass on anything Tesla.

[Jimjamz]

The Cybertruck is going after the more extreme edges of those on the XM spectrum.

[marashka]

Originally Posted by MJBO

Unless you’re planning on this for like 2027 I’m pretty sure you can slip another car in before there is a chance of your Cybertruck arriving.



Love the optimism

I have actually already signed the agreement and put down a deposit. Tesla reached out with delivery time frame of second half of march for founders edition. Price kinda bites. Top of the line is 140k otd.

[OtoPA]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Not interested in the truck but this video is pretty damn good and has alot of details about the CT

reminds me of the Johnnie Cab in the first Total Recall...

[Endless619]

Tesla has always been straight up trash.

The new truck is a $59k vehicle intended for the lower middle class. This has been known for some time now.

I wouldn’t own one. Can’t get past the awful looks and weight of them. And we don’t care how fast they are. They are in a different class. They are an EV ie a trans vehicle. EVs should race EVs and gas cars should race gas cars. Plus when I see a Tesla on the road you automatically think oh another POS Joe Biden supporter. 😂😂

[White340XDriveInCt]

Originally Posted by xxyion

NO.

However i'm very much against Elon.

That being said i still like to think about things rationally. My friend got to drive one and i saw one at our local car meet so i can give you some thoughts

Pros:

Good towing capacity
Lots of space
tech filled
decent space in the....space in the back..."trunk"? I dont know the official term
Decent vision all around for driving
EV so its quite economical
Consistent in performance output (Hagerty did a great portion on this)
48v architecture
Drive by Wire Steering

Cons:
Build quality is just as bad as your average Model 3. You'd think it wouldnt be but it is
Opening the rear cover is not nearly as smooth or nice as i feel like it should be for a car at this price. It's the same issue i have with the powered trunk in the Model 3, it feels and sounds cheap.
The car is a literal tank. If you hit ANYTHING with the car at anything over 30 MPH, get ready to pay for a lot of damages. There are quite a bit of sharp edges on the outside of the car and zero flex points. Honestly, you hit anyone going 30 mph you might actually kill them. For me this is a big issue.
The "cheap" version wont be released till later. You're going to be paying for something that almost 100k with the build quality of something that is in their 30k vehicles which other cheaper car companies dont have in their 18k vehicles.

While i wont try and prevent anyone from buying what they want. I personally will never own a Tesla. My friend bought a Model 3 and the amount of panel gaps and low quality feeling mechanisms immedietly made me feel like he wasted his money. I get it, the tech is cool and i feel like Tesla engineers are actually incredible, but the quality control is just not there for me. And i just dont like Elon, especially after working for him for 2 years. But thats me.

Pretty much echo these sentiments exactly, though I never worked for him. Never felt like any of the Teslas I was in were "solid," and not a fan of any of the styling. And yeah the thing with Elon personally is...I dunno man. He just ain't right, IMO

[hellcat2m4]

Cybertruck is the ugliest thing I have ever seen.

More power to you if you don't mind the awful quality on top of the horrendous looks.

[Forzanerazzurri]

Originally Posted by marashka

Huh?…. Anyway, this example right here is why heavy drinking and posting online is often embarrassing. Don’t do it kids!

You are going to be driving around in a Cybertruck dude... now that's embarrassing.

[marashka]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

You are going to be driving around in a Cybertruck dude... now that's embarrassing.

Fascinating how some people aren’t able to live their own life without an inescapable need to judge other people on the way they choose to spend their money. Dude.

[Forzanerazzurri]

Originally Posted by marashka

Fascinating how some people aren’t able to live their own life without an inescapable need to judge other people on the way they choose to spend their money. Dude.

Now I'm just imagining your face when your cybertruck gets delivered. Being all proud.

Hilarious.

[marashka]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

Now I'm just imagining your face when your cybertruck gets delivered. Being all proud.

Hilarious.

You sound very sad and lonely. I don’t want to live in your head even if it’s rent free.

[FC4]

There is a huge gap in socioeconomic status between those who vehemently dislike the CT and those who like it. It's fascinating.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by FC4

There is a huge gap in socioeconomic status between those who vehemently dislike the CT and those who like it. It's fascinating.

Hmm. Please elaborate on this highly speculative comment.

[FC4]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

Hmm. Please elaborate on this highly speculative comment.

Just a genuine observation.

Cybertruck conversations in real life can either invoke joy or negativity. It's very similar to how it is online. You either hear "they are so cool" or "What a POS" and "EVs are actually worse for the environment..."

I've noticed those who have achieved high levels of success in life tend to view the Cybertruck more positively. The're usually happier people in general who add positive energy to a room and are nice to be around.

The "it looks like shit and can't tow" people are generally miserable and are usually a few rungs lower on the ladder.

[Weather Man]

Originally Posted by FC4

Just a genuine observation.

Cybertruck conversations in real life can either invoke joy or negativity. It's very similar to how it is online. You either hear "they are so cool" or "What a POS" and "EVs are actually worse for the environment..."

I've noticed those who have achieved high levels of success in life tend to view the Cybertruck more positively. The're usually happier people in general who add positive energy to a room and are nice to be around.

The "it looks like shit and can't tow" people are generally miserable and are usually a few rungs lower on the ladder.

Generally speaking, EV owners who buy top of food chain expensive EV's don't like being reminded of the horrible quality, number of people in the Congo who died mining the Cobalt for it or that its fuel economy is the same as the power plant supplying the electrons minus transmission losses or the massive amount of carbon expended in mining the massive number of elements required to assemble said carbon bomb. Oh, and that it can't tow shit anywhere meaningful. Other than that, it's a great truck if you enjoy 3rd grade design brought to life.

[FC4]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Generally speaking, EV owners who buy top of food chain expensive EV's don't like being reminded of the horrible quality, number of people in the Congo who died mining the Cobalt for it or that its fuel economy is the same as the power plant supplying the electrons minus transmission losses or the massive amount of carbon expended in mining the massive number of elements required to assemble said carbon bomb. Oh, and that it can't tow shit anywhere meaningful. Other than that, it's a great truck if you enjoy 3rd grade design brought to life.

LOL. Exactly.

[Diesel power]

Originally Posted by FC4

Just a genuine observation.

Cybertruck conversations in real life can either invoke joy or negativity. It's very similar to how it is online. You either hear "they are so cool" or "What a POS" and "EVs are actually worse for the environment..."

I've noticed those who have achieved high levels of success in life tend to view the Cybertruck more positively. The're usually happier people in general who add positive energy to a room and are nice to be around.

The "it looks like shit and can't tow" people are generally miserable and are usually a few rungs lower on the ladder.

Are you saying that noone who has achieved success in life can look at the hilarious set of contradictions that is the Cyber Truck and have a negative opinion of it? The car exists as it is solely because Elon Musk and his ego said it must be so. There are so many questionable engineering decisions much less manufacturing processes that have gone into that vehicle that I think anyone who has the intellect to "achieve success" in life can also say it may not be the perfect vehicle.

Conversely, is it not possible that there are a great many people who have "Achieved Success" who are convinced that they are always right as evidenced by their "success"? Perhaps that mentality confirms that the greatness of the cyber truck is proof of their good taste?

Remember when the Cyber Truck was going to be faster than a Porsche, go farther than a Model S, Tow more than a Diesel Truck, and be under 50K? I do, and I think it's at least partly to blame for a lot of people's dim view of the car.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Oh, and that it can't tow shit anywhere meaningful.

Most of the trucks apparently averaged 1.3 miles / kWh. So a little over half what they normally get at highway speeds (2.0 to 2.4).

What would a diesel pickup get towing a 4,000 lb car on a 1,000 lb (?) trailer vs. it's normal economy? Considering that this was up over a 10,000 ft-mountain, I'd say "can't tow shit anywhere meaningful" isn't accurate.

[Weather Man]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

Most of the trucks apparently averaged 1.3 miles / kWh. So a little over half what they normally get at highway speeds (2.0 to 2.4).

What would a diesel pickup get towing a 4,000 lb car on a 1,000 lb (?) trailer vs. it's normal economy? Considering that this was up over a 10,000 ft-mountain, I'd say "can't tow shit anywhere meaningful" isn't accurate.

If you think towing a 100 miles or less and sitting at a charger is towing, good luck. The EV tow youtubes are plentiful, it never ends well for the guy towing.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

If you think towing a 100 miles or less and sitting at a charger is towing, good luck. The EV tow youtubes are plentiful, it never ends well for the guy towing.

YouTube "journalists" fail purposely for the clicks. Reality is different. Did you watch the video? Have you watched a video of someone who is familiar with towing who DOESN"T want to fail?

If you tow a lot....don't buy an EV truck. But reality check, how often does anyone use a truck to tow? I live in Truck Central, TX. The answer is....much lower than you would think. Those that buy to tow, tow often. But most people use their pickup just like a roomier, lifted car and very occasionally tow, and short distances at that. And even the ones that tow often are usually just taking their boat to the lake 40-50 miles away, driving around with a landscaping trailer, bringing their UTV's out of town, etc.

No one is forcing you to buy an EV truck. But don't say it can't tow anything meaningful. Much like most people's responses to EV's is to give extreme use cases (I can't road trip to Anchorage tomorrow morning if I want), same with towing. The reality is that it'd work fine for most people. And if it doesnt....just buy an ICE truck.

[hellcat2m4]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

YouTube "journalists" fail purposely for the clicks. Reality is different. Did you watch the video? Have you watched a video of someone who is familiar with towing who DOESN"T want to fail?

If you tow a lot....don't buy an EV truck. But reality check, how often does anyone use a truck to tow? I live in Truck Central, TX. The answer is....much lower than you would think. Those that buy to tow, tow often. But most people use their pickup just like a roomier, lifted car and very occasionally tow, and short distances at that. And even the ones that tow often are usually just taking their boat to the lake 40-50 miles away, driving around with a landscaping trailer, bringing their UTV's out of town, etc.

No one is forcing you to buy an EV truck. But don't say it can't tow anything meaningful. Much like most people's responses to EV's is to give extreme use cases (I can't road trip to Anchorage tomorrow morning if I want), same with towing. The reality is that it'd work fine for most people. And if it doesnt....just buy an ICE truck.

This. In Texas almost no one uses their truck for anything more then from point A to point B. Not a tesla fan at all myself.

[Weather Man]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

No one is forcing you to buy an EV truck. But don't say it can't tow anything meaningful. Much like most people's responses to EV's is to give extreme use cases (I can't road trip to Anchorage tomorrow morning if I want), same with towing. The reality is that it'd work fine for most people. And if it doesnt....just buy an ICE truck.

Are you even paying attention to the EPA and state bans? Any EV truck on the market does NOT work just fine as a truck. They do work swell for showing off Green Cred. EV youtube tow vids are definitely for clicks, but the truth they illuminate is just that, the truth, they suck for towing.