[Nahlem]

Originally Posted by PinkFlamingo

You clearly have no clue what you're saying. The US has 280 million vehicles on the road and if 100% of them were EV's by 2027, the grid would absolutely fail in highly populated areas. The majority of EV owners charge at night when the price/kw is cheapest. You get a heat wave paired with millions of EV's plugged in at the same time, boom the lights are out.

Good news though, majority of the country can't afford EV's so this discussion is pointless.

Clearly you "Know" just don't spread myths that ain't true your simply dumbifying your self for being mad about ICE vehicles not being the thing any more and going away. But don't worry you will still be able to buy pre owned ones so that is great news.

And being American and all thinking people "cant afford" EVs doesn't that goes against the whole idea of it becoming cheaper when production ramps up on a huge scale? Didn't they teach you about Henry Ford in your school?

Oh well can't expect to much from some people.

[SeanWRT]

If there is an official G8X LCI and it's not the one people are getting now for MY23, something M specific must be in the cook. Cosmetic and drivetrain mods most likely.

MY24 should be the logical timing, given they decided to prolong G20 platform by 2 years.

[PinkFlamingo]

Originally Posted by Nahlem

Clearly you "Know" just don't spread myths that ain't true your simply dumbifying your self for being mad about ICE vehicles not being the thing any more and going away. But don't worry you will still be able to buy pre owned ones so that is great news.

And being American and all thinking people "cant afford" EVs doesn't that goes against the whole idea of it becoming cheaper when production ramps up on a huge scale? Didn't they teach you about Henry Ford in your school?

Oh well can't expect to much from some people.

I love professional internet trolls! Enjoy California

[TVonthe80]

Originally Posted by Nahlem

Clearly you "Know" just don't spread myths that ain't true your simply dumbifying your self for being mad about ICE vehicles not being the thing any more and going away. But don't worry you will still be able to buy pre owned ones so that is great news.

And being American and all thinking people "cant afford" EVs doesn't that goes against the whole idea of it becoming cheaper when production ramps up on a huge scale? Didn't they teach you about Henry Ford in your school?

Oh well can't expect to much from some people.

I’ve worked in renewable energy and grid transmission for nearly a decade. I assure you the US grid is not prepared for a rapid shift to EV and on demand charging. Smart metering and capacity management could help mitigate, but how many people will be willing to let a grid operator decide who gets to charge their car and when. That’s not the American way. But if you think everyone in a subdivision can plug in their EV at 6pm and be ready to go at 7am the next day, you’ll be massively disappointed. The grid won’t support that type of peak demand, or anywheres near it

[Nahlem]

Originally Posted by TVonthe80

I’ve worked in renewable energy and grid transmission for nearly a decade. I assure you the US grid is not prepared for a rapid shift to EV and on demand charging. Smart metering and capacity management could help mitigate, but how many people will be willing to let a grid operator decide who gets to charge their car and when. That’s not the American way. But if you think everyone in a subdivision can plug in their EV at 6pm and be ready to go at 7am the next day, you’ll be massively disappointed. The grid won’t support that type of peak demand, or anywheres near it

There won't be a rapid shift to EV's there hasn't been anything rapid yet about it, still EV's are a minority within the auto industry and among the general population.

It will take time for a shift we are pretty much in EV's infancy still there is a lot of work to be done, not only for EVs but we are facing issues in industries that can't expand or grow due to lack of power and electricity overall, but we won't see those peaks not in the next 20-30 years at least, if we are talking about battery tech there is enormous progress that will be made in the times ahead, the next coming years we will see battery increasing from 500 to 600 to 700 and upwards of 1200-1500 km in one charge, we won't see that enormous demand that so many think will come and it won't not in terms of collapsing the grid. If you talk to engineers at work places like Northvolt that we have in our town, it is a guarantee the enormous leaps in tech coming the next 20-30 years.

We are also seeing giant leaps in terms of people investing in home energy solutions like solar panels and their own "house battery" witch will also be a part of the solution.

There is simply no fit solution for all, so no EVs won't be the only thing on the market we will see even more types of "fossil free" fuels that will be used for cars.

[Forzanerazzurri]

Originally Posted by Nahlem

Clearly you "Know" just don't spread myths that ain't true your simply dumbifying your self for being mad about ICE vehicles not being the thing any more and going away. But don't worry you will still be able to buy pre owned ones so that is great news.

And being American and all thinking people "cant afford" EVs doesn't that goes against the whole idea of it becoming cheaper when production ramps up on a huge scale? Didn't they teach you about Henry Ford in your school?

Oh well can't expect to much from some people.

Californians told not to charge their electric cars at times on Labor Day weekend
The announcement comes shortly after the state's ICE ban

https://www.autoblog.com/2022/09/01/californians-told-not-to-charge-electric-cars/

Lol...

[hqlden]

In the short time I lived in San Diego and for the the first time in my life I had to deal with rolling blackouts and a failing electrical grid. This was in 2018, far before any new "green" legislation was introduced and far before the conception of the ICE ban. I can only imagine how much further their already crumbling infrastructure will perish by the time this atrocity sets in motion. On a lighter note, gas is getting cheaper in AZ. Let's hope we stay away from coal power just a few years longer... oh yeah and the LCI models are pretty cool, lol.

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

Californians told not to charge their electric cars at times on Labor Day weekend
The announcement comes shortly after the state's ICE ban

https://www.autoblog.com/2022/09/01/...electric-cars/

Lol...

[M3coco]

When is the Lci supposed to happen?

[ChiTownM]

Same situation in Europe, albeit influenced by geopolitical issues on top of everything else. In Germany they have switched off all the lights of their national monuments at night, and are warning the general population about possible energy shortages for the winter due to gas shortage and shutting down their nuclear power one by one. At the same time, gasoline is at an all time high to add insult to injury during the current inflation. There is a lot at stake and the underlying infrastructure as well as politics are just some pieces of the puzzle. There are so many other large sources of pollution that need to be regulated with much more rigor. Cars have become incredibly efficient by now.

Good for BMW to continue developing their amazing machines, they are known as an (aircraft) engine and car company, it is the BMW DNA. BMW M has added to that legacy for 50 years now, cheers to that.

[vj123]

Originally Posted by M3coco

When is the Lci supposed to happen?

As of now, there isnt any concrete information on the timing.

[HannibalSmith]

Is there risk that BMW drops the manual option with the LCI?

[mthreesixty3]

Originally Posted by vj123

As of now, there isnt any concrete information on the timing.

ISNT 2023 M3 AND 2024 THE LCI? Aren't we in it RIGHT NOW?

[vj123]

Originally Posted by mthreesixty3

ISNT 2023 M3 AND 2024 THE LCI? Aren't we in it RIGHT NOW?

MY23 M3 is not the LCI.

ThATs tHe WhOlE pOiNt Of ThIs ThReAd.

[bri1042]

Originally Posted by HannibalSmith

Is there risk that BMW drops the manual option with the LCI?

Probably some risk, but assuming MT sales haven't been lower than they expected, it probably isn't that big of a risk. They already have the sunk cost of development on it. If something external happened, like ZF not producing the unit anymore, that would change the equation.

But, the Supra is getting a version of this manual (modified...and it looks like the gear rations are really odd with 5th and 6th both as overdrive gears and 4th at 1:1), as is the Z4 apparently.

BMW manuals are hanging on by a thread, but they are hanging on. I don't think anyone has much hope past this gen of cars, though.

[mthreesixty3]

Originally Posted by vj123

MY23 M3 is not the LCI.

ThATs tHe WhOlE pOiNt Of ThIs ThReAd.

Oh then that's my bad.

I wonder what's in the LCI

[Patsfan1997]

Originally Posted by MPower9525

Trading in my 2018 S4 Prestige with the B&O for a '23 M3CX and have been reading everywhere that the HK system sucks so I'm glad to hear you think it's an upgrade!

I'm trading in my 2014 S4 with B&O for the M3CX as well. I've sat in one and blasted the HK and compared to the B&O it's garbage. Apparently you can use an app called Bimmercode to program the equalizer settings to mimic those of the B&W and that improves the sound quite a bit. I guess we'll see when I get it.

[vj123]

Originally Posted by mthreesixty3

Oh then that's my bad.

I wonder what's in the LCI

Hope we get to know more about the changes and timing soon.

[M3_OG]

Hopefully they change the front bumper

[G80indy]

I am now dumber for reading this thread

[HEY32G]

I'm gonna feel stupid, but what is LCI?

[Trojan4evr]

Originally Posted by HEY32G

I'm gonna feel stupid, but what is LCI?

Life Cycle Impulse. Pretty much a refresh in BMW lingo.

[vj123]

Originally Posted by Rux

Me? More power, changed grill...does not matter. I am jumping ship to the G99. People complain "Whaahhh no wagon for the US" and when it comes here, no one buys it. Just like the 6MT people, I am going to do my part.

Had BMW brought G81 to the US, i would have replaced my G80 with a G81. Personally, i feel the G8x platform is the right size which fits my wants and needs.

With a significant price between G81 and G99, they cater different customer bases as well.