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      09-16-2020, 01:32 PM   #1
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Just got done with BMW track day in Indy. They had the m3 isle of Man and the m4 San Paulo yellow. They have it in a well curtained off area where they take all your stuff and then wand you with a metal detector. the room was not exactly well lit.

Overall the car is fine. Not super sexy and not hideously ugly. Definitely looks larger. side profile looks pretty nice. I hate it when people make these comparisons, but kind of reminded me of a an Audi A/S5. The grilles are pretty much as everyone has seen them. They are permanently open and not active as on the regular 4 series. really didn't look drastically different in person. They said pretty much 100% of the people's reactions on seeing them is "oh, I guess they don't look that bad or as bad as I was thinking." I suppose as time goes on they are becoming less hideous because I am getting numb to them but I still don't like them. The black grilles were a nice contrast to the bright San Paulo yellow. I'd be curious to see that color out in bright sunlight.

The new M mirrors look horrible. They are as depicted in that latest iteration on here. They are very squared off and really pretty ugly compared to the current mirrors.

The loss of the power dome hood is noticeable and unfortunate even though I know that it is not needed for the engine anymore. I guess we'll have to see how it looks compared to the regular four series, if you can really tell much of a difference with the scallops out towards the front.

The rear looks really large and squared off. At least standing close to it didn't seem that attractive . They said it looks like the 8 but I just drove a bunch of m8's and they are way more sexy.

the side vents almost look like an afterthought. kind of small like on the M2.

I really like the wheels. Both of them had all black wheels. I think I might prefer the two-tone but we'll see.

I was hoping to walk in and see it and say, "Now that's hot! That's absolutely going to be my next car! Way better than in the online pics!" Unfortunately, my reaction was, "It looks pretty nice. About what it looked like online. I guess I'll probably get one since there really isn't any similar coupe in the same ballpark."

Side note, the m8 is really sexy. I pictured is being a lot larger but it kind of seems about the size of the current six series.
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If you today got the choice to swap your M4 for the G82 with no money involved would you do it?
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If you today got the choice to swap your M4 for the G82 with no money involved would you do it?
Well, I will say that the new m4 did not make my current one overly jealous, but I would swap and at least 50% of that is because I like new shiny things, new tech, etc. I would usually say new more modern design, but I'm not sure if that applies here in a positive sense. It is a nice looking car overall though. It was definitely interesting driving the m5 competition and m8 competition and then getting in the m2 which felt very similar, old tech like, to my m4.
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I really like the wheels. Both of them had all black wheels. I think I might prefer the two-tone but we'll see.
thanks for the write up.

Were the all black wheels the same as these wheels, just not two-tone? Or were they different wheels?

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thanks for the write up.

Were the all black wheels the same as these wheels, just not two-tone? Or were they different wheels?

thanks for the picture. I was trying to remember what the ones I had seen looked like. They were different than those. Must be the competition model wheels I saw
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What colour is that blue M8?! That is absolutely beautiful. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen a pic that just made me stop, take it all in, and screen shot it.
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thanks for the write up.

Were the all black wheels the same as these wheels, just not two-tone? Or were they different wheels?

I think the black wheels I saw were closest to 706M.
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What colour is that blue M8?! That is absolutely beautiful. Itís been a long time since Iíve seen a pic that just made me stop, take it all in, and screen shot it.
That's a fine question. It was even more stunning in person. I was walking past it with one of the instructors and asked him, "What color is that M8???" He looked at it and somewhat sarcastically said, "It's blue." Lol. He didn't have a clue either.
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What colour is that blue M8?! That is absolutely beautiful. Itís been a long time since Iíve seen a pic that just made me stop, take it all in, and screen shot it.
the color is name after a track in Salinas, CA
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Seem like you F up big BMW. Most of the folks who got the sneak peak ain't getting one. Also standard on the e46 m3 from ohh 1 to ohh 4 I believe.
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That's a fine question. It was even more stunning in person. I was walking past it with one of the instructors and asked him, "What color is that M8???" He looked at it and somewhat sarcastically said, "It's blue." Lol. He didn't have a clue either.
I was at this event this morning and heard that same conversation in the background. I didn't know who said it, but I laughed under my mask.

To further the discussion on the new M3/M4 grill, I was one of those who said, "It looks much better in person." That's because I was expecting , so when I saw what it really looks like, especially with the carbon fiber splitter and the hood being indented towards the front to accent the large grills, it wasn't nearly as bad. The camouflage wrap pictures online does a great job hiding everything but the massive grills and yet hides everything that gives those grills context. I get what they're going for, an aggressive look. Very aggressive. Not sure I'd buy one, but it's not that bad and I get it now seeing it in person.
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thanks for the write up.

Were the all black wheels the same as these wheels, just not two-tone? Or were they different wheels?

On a side note, I always do a double take when I see your posts
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the color is name after a track in Salinas, CA
That's Laguna Seca?
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I was at this event this morning and heard that same conversation in the background. I didn't know who said it, but I laughed under my mask.

To further the discussion on the new M3/M4 grill, I was one of those who said, "It looks much better in person." That's because I was expecting , so when I saw what it really looks like, especially with the carbon fiber splitter and the hood being indented towards the front to accent the large grills, it wasn't nearly as bad. The camouflage wrap pictures online does a great job hiding everything but the massive grills and yet hides everything that gives those grills context. I get what they're going for, an aggressive look. Very aggressive. Not sure I'd buy one, but it's not that bad and I get it now seeing it in person.
Yea, I agree on the camo doing well hiding stuff. He was pointing out how the lines starting all the way up by the windshield all focus to highlight the grilles, although I'm not sure that's a good thing given what the grilles are, but looking at it without camo you can appreciate some of the lines and intent better.
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Yea, I agree on the camo doing well hiding stuff. He was pointing out how the lines starting all the way up by the windshield all focus to highlight the grilles, although I'm not sure that's a good thing given what the grilles are, but looking at it without camo you can appreciate some of the lines and intent better.
I am regularly bemused by all this ott secrecy when we've already see a photo of the car without camo back in June:



For those who've seen the car, is there *anything* that differs substantially from this photo?
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I am regularly bemused by all this ott secrecy when we've already see a photo of the car without camo back in June:



For those who've seen the car, is there *anything* that differs substantially from this photo?
Lighting. That photo is terrible.
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I am regularly bemused by all this ott secrecy when we've already see a photo of the car without camo back in June:



For those who've seen the car, is there *anything* that differs substantially from this photo?
I mean, yea, that's the car. There are a few small differences that I remember, like the lower front having slats instead of what it looks like there. But, that's a crappy, dark, grainy single picture. Far different than seeing the whole car in person in a lit room and being able to walk up and around see it from all angles.

I constantly wonder why people who take and post pics like this didn't take 30 more from all angles.
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I'm ok enough with the looks. I wouldn't say that I would buy it for the looks, which is really, really unfortunate for an M car. But let's face it, this is no 8-series. If I can get it at a reasonable price with a MT and 4-doors, well, this seems to be the best option. What I want to know about is the steering feel and what the clutch by wire thing is like. The driving part better be a home run to make up for the looks.
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What colour is that blue M8?! That is absolutely beautiful. Itís been a long time since Iíve seen a pic that just made me stop, take it all in, and screen shot it.
Judging by the colours of the other cars, I'd say those are the heritage colours that were used on the M4 Heritage edition. So:
  • Laguna Seca Blue
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I mean, yea, that's the car. There are a few small differences that I remember, like the lower front having slats instead of what it looks like there. But, that's a crappy, dark, grainy single picture. Far different than seeing the whole car in person in a lit room and being able to walk up and around see it from all angles.

I constantly wonder why people who take and post pics like this didn't take 30 more from all angles.
Because they probably were not supposed to take any photos at all?
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