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      08-25-2020, 08:02 PM   #89
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Don't send it to the US please so that Porsche can take my next deposit.
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      08-25-2020, 08:22 PM   #90
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I'll post this repeatedly on all the wagon threads: BMWNA - this is the only way I will buy a G8X, or ANY new BMW right now. If this becomes available in the US I will be marching to the dealer to put down a deposit.
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      08-25-2020, 09:00 PM   #91
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Damn no US?

This is the only one I like so far.
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      08-25-2020, 09:15 PM   #92
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I've never understood why some people like the wagon look. Not sporty to me at all.
How can you say my wagon is not sporty, it turns head and tracks
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      08-25-2020, 09:21 PM   #93
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NICE! 😎

Now BMW bring it to the U.S. 🇺🇸!
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      08-25-2020, 09:51 PM   #94
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The idea is it's a bit of a sleeper, like many wagons. The point is it doesn't look sporty, until you try to race one.
Same can be said for the X3M and X5M with a non M unique exterior paint color, blends in with the crowd.

There should be a poll set up, how many current X3M/X4M and M3 owners would switch to a G81, as I see this owner demographic purchasing a wagon.
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The first V60 Polestar sold out sight unseen here. Because it was amazing? No, because Volvo has bred rabid wagon fans over the years who craved performance. The CTS-V was expected to flop, but they managed to sell many more than they planned. It was a RWD wagon with a corvette engine and a stick. Enthusiasts lusted after it. Cadillac didn't create that demand, but they tapped into it, and created an iconic car.

BMW could do the same. They simply don't want to throw any money into it, and that's fine. It doesn't make business sense to them. But saying their hands are tied because performance wagons don't sell is a bit off. They don't sell in huge numbers, but few great cars do.
Yep. IIRC when BMW did sell wagons it was always the low power variant and with the 3 series the rear seats lost quite a bit of leg room. I guess BMW figured they wouldn't sell say a 335i(d) as a wagon because it would be too expensive and buyer who like space appreciate higher seating of an X3/4.
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What's your point?

Why bringing an G83 but not an G81 to US?
The always sell.. It's a boulevard cruiser and owner flip in/out of them in 2-3 yrs.
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      08-26-2020, 03:32 AM   #97
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If it comes with the 6MT, I'll be runinng to my dealer with a deposit.

Tanzanite Blue, Cloth interior, sunroof. Dream spec right there.
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Bring it to the US and sell at reasonable price (X3M price). No way you will get any sales with "wagon premium"
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Went and seen the M3/M4 again but first time seeing the M4.
We also had discussion on the Touring where I got to see more from the initial teaser they showed.

Interesting enough. They openly admit no reaction to the grille drama for the LCI and Touring introduction in 2022. Which means the Grilles are staying.

They are confident to that customers will appreciate the bold new look but also the cars vast quantity of immense capabilities.
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      08-26-2020, 10:52 AM   #100
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Went and seen the M3/M4 again but first time seeing the M4.
We also had discussion on the Touring where I got to see more from the initial teaser they showed.

Interesting enough. They openly admit no reaction to the grille drama for the LCI and Touring introduction in 2022. Which means the Grilles are staying.

They are confident to that customers will appreciate the bold new look but also the cars vast quantity of immense capabilities.
Lucky guy, seeing them together do you have a personal favorite M3 or M4? I believe “they” are right. The performance jump of this generation will overshadow all else and make these cars very hard to resist.
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Why would anyone want a Touring with HOOD LINE if the standard one or the Alpina one doesn’t have any.
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      08-26-2020, 11:26 AM   #102
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Seeing an RS6 in person, it is a much bigger vehicle. The G81 will feel much more nimble and spirited. IMO - Enthusiasts want a wagon larger than a hatchback, but not as large as the RS6.

M3/G81 is the perfect size.
The RS6 is definitely the larger vehicle here. But I doubt the G81 is not significantly smaller. Probably 10% in all dimensions. Since M3 is no longer the same size as it used to. F80 size felt nimble compared to a RS7 but definitely no E46
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As the owner of two wagons currently (Volvo V90 and BMW 3 Series), the second they make this available in the US I will put down a deposit.

Sadly the market for wagons in the US is very small. Audi is bringing the RS6, but it is a one time thing. They did bring back the A6 Allroad though. MB sells a few hundred E63's per year. I do think BMW should do a limited run of wagons for the US. Federalization is not that expensive and it would be a halo car if they did it right.
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Lucky guy, seeing them together do you have a personal favorite M3 or M4? I believe “they” are right. The performance jump of this generation will overshadow all else and make these cars very hard to resist.
I am more of a "practical" kind of guy so I prefer the sedan.
What I take back from the M3 against M4 is the emphasis on the wide track at the rear and how the body is pumped and defined to accommodate this.
There is not much over that from the standard 4 to the M4 as the same between previous F32 and F82 as they had a wider track than the sedan.

There is an Alfa-ish quality to the front of the car which in some way is seen as respect as they did benchmark the Guilia whilst developing this generation. They are hoping to get their hands on the GTA.

The M3 was a shade of Black with Orange interior and the M4 was São Paulo Yellow With almost matching interior which was shown recently.
Black defines the grille very well. It does disguise as well as enhances.

What I can say for the M4 is that they really have distinguished it from the 3. F32 was still too close proximity to F30. Here it looks like a proper Sports car. The stance , the proportions and that grille it's all fantastically formed. My favourite design feature is the bonnet grooves which I am told will be used in a Future performance model to more potential.
It's very retro but classic BMW Motorsport.
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I suppose I could wrap my F31 in the same pattern and pretend I have an M3 Touring in my driveway, but as soon as I drove it, I'd be back to reality...

I still love my F31
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BMW bring the M3 Touring w/M xDrive to the States 🇺🇸 ! 🗽

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As a wagon fan, I have to say my fandom for a manual outweighs my fandom for a wagon.

I would much prefer a 6MT/G80 Sedan with a cargo box attached to the roof rather than a ZF8/G81 Wagon.

My 6MT G80 will be my pseudo wagon with low profile cargo-box.
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      08-27-2020, 05:06 AM   #108
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I'll post this repeatedly on all the wagon threads: BMWNA - this is the only way I will buy a G8X. If this becomes available in the US I will be marching to the dealer to put down a deposit.
Amen. I intend to keep the M2C for a long time, but that wouldn't stop me from adding the G81 next to it in 2-3 years. I've already put myself on a local dealer list with the intent of buying it should they sell it to the US Market. Anyone interested should do the same.

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BMW bring the M3 Touring w/M xDrive to the States ���� ! ��
ITYM, "Will BMW bring the M3 Touring m/M xDrive to the States?"

I skipped through the video, and nothing seems to imply this guy knows more about BMW's actions than the insiders who commented on this thread.
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