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No, the DCT that BMW has on the shelf cannot support AWD ( Also the DCT is torque limited without doing heavy modifications for manufacture reliability- the cost to benefit ratio )
I've driven both and honestly the pros of the ZF-8 outweigh that .0002 second decrease in shift times. The ZF bangs them off pretty fast. Last edited by DocWeatherington; 06-30-2020 at 07:38 PM.. |
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M3C of course AWD, please. With that set up I can forgo the ugly nose
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That's up for debate... the ZF-8 (Auto) while it won't have that same snappy direct feel as the DCT, it's pretty damn good on the track and its all a matter of tuning. BMW does the best tuning of the ZF-8(auto). The only DCT out there that BMW could use is the DCT that Porsche uses but that's not cheap but its also made by ZF, and Porsche also uses the ZF-8 speed auto.
Your talking milliseconds difference in shift times. ZF-8 150-200ms // DCT 60-150ms // manual 500ms-1s // human blink 100-400ms |
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As far as the RWD and AWD options... its a bizarre split... i was thinking the rwd would be the Purist version w 6 mt... the awd would be the hardcore track / drag car...
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Count me as someone who would choose the 8speed with RWD... even as my only car that drives up to Maine monthly. AWD no matter how great, still is heavier and draggy-er (drivetrain wise). I hate that feeling. Evidence of the above is my current vehicle where I made that exact choice.
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Makes sense the fastest car gets the fastest tranny.
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This is the biggest improvement in my opinion for manual drivers:
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Yeah, it is too many options. But, I bet BMW market research knows the tuning and the purest crowd wants RWD and 6 speed. My understanding of the AWD in the M5 is its complex computer-wise and a manual won't work. Also if the trend is true, spread the cost of development, the base powertrain will probably find itself in the M2 and maybe the Z4 twins. Plus side for tuners is the ZF also can take a ton more power stock than the DCT. |
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No I agree they are ugly square ones that they added a finger to instead of the beautiful sleek ones that come with the F8Xs.
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