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Back in the day, I raced SCCA C and B Production at Road America. That track would be much more favorable to an M4 Comp. No one has complained about its power, and the long straights play to that. Even VIR would be a good track for it. The handling for a heavy, RWD/front engine is outstanding. Not, it's not a Porsche GT3, but then for the price difference, you can get an X3M. Would be a good venue to run against any Cayman--including the GT4. What it loses in the corners, it has plenty of room to make up on the straights.
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Just about 1,000 miles of real-world seat time in my G80 M3C . . . probably about 950 miles more than most journalists or other ‘reviewers’ will ever sniff.
I am still getting to know the car, and the car itself is still coming into its own. . . I hesitate to draw conclusion or comparison. What I can state with certainty is that I am always looking for an excuse to get behind the wheel of my M3C . . . and quite often find myself behind the wheel with no destination at all. Dare I say driving the M3C is a lot of FUN?! Then again, what do I know, as I also thought my M2C was a lot of fun . . . and I have no idea which is faster or more capable??? ///AVM Last edited by ///AVM; 05-10-2021 at 06:39 AM.. |
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Thats the point of this car...its a sports sedan for a modest (in comparison to the next step up) that also can keep up with some of the best performance cars on the market in track conditions the m3/4 isn't trying to be a Porsche |
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Many of you guys have brought up a good point. No one is really cross shopping a 911 and a M3/4 TBH. 992 price increase over the 991 was significant in itself to the point where the base 991 and base 992 aren't even on the same playing field because of the 992's dramatic price increase counting inflation. However, plenty 992 drivers are former F8X owners. I see an M3/4 as a stepping stone a 911. Like a GTI is a stepping stone to a M340i, etc.
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In a track setting the m3/4 performs much closer to a 911 than it does a panamera, people who are choosing the m3 are those who cant afford a 911+a daily |
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My point was I'm not in the market for a 911 (or an M4) as I need four doors and therefore don't compare one with the other when shopping, however I would compare the M3 with Mercedes AMG and Audi RS equivalent sedans Anyway, we are going around in circles here. |
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This is what so many people miss about the equation. BMW is not solely focused on maintaining the purpose and heritage of the M3, not nearly as much as Porsche does with the 911. BMW is managing an M product portfolio. The M2 - which did not used to exist - is now the hooligan option which allows the M3 to move upmarket a bit. We should be happy we have more options than ever before!
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M3Cs are nice but M2C will always be a notch better for the enjoyment factor. Steering is the liveliest one I have seen in any modern BMW. M3C steering is precise but boring, from what I take. It's a great car for a different purpose.
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Persistent erroneous reference to "get the M2 if one wants a fun car". What about previous 4/5 seater M3s that were engaging to drive?
https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...98&postcount=6 edit: previous M3s
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Didn't you have any?
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Of course - my old man's E36 was a blast, and I've driven plenty others that were fun as well. I'm not denying for a second that the old cars were fun, I'm just curious if you had a specific car in mind?
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Meaning you didn't own any M (that was engaging to drive)?
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However I reject that the new M3 is not fun. Reviewers say it handles as well as the M2C and tests show it laps tracks just as fast. How is the M2C universally regarded as amazing, and the M3 handles as well, but the M3 isn’t fun at all? What a bunch of malarkey. |
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