[Forzanerazzurri]

Originally Posted by MCM4

Youtube, the milesperhour guy... 3.1. Also Skyscraper if I recall! I made a post with his review a while back.

Joe Achilles also did a 3.1 on a stock m3cx

[8262S]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

Just curious, have you ever bothered to read your owner's manual? Not a physics textbook, your owner's manual. I'm sure even you can manage that.

Here let me hold your hand...

Under the Launch Control section:

"General Use of Launch Control causes premature component wear, as the function subjects the vehicle to very high stresses and loads. Do not use Launch Control when running in. When starting with Launch Control, do not turn the steering wheel."

Then why didn't you say that instead of a condescending reference to plenty of books to browse?

My owner's manual is in the glovebox, in the car, in Germany.

The question I posed was truly inquisitive, and your comment piqued my interest enough that I did some research and found the thread that I reference. There was dispute in that thread and the issue was left unresolved. Hence my question.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that driving a car hard causes more wear than normal driving. We are all trying to figure out where the line is between having fun with the car and breaking it.

I will use this as a point of reference, and continue to research the issue, but am not convinced that BMW thought the car was strong enough to include a launch control but that occasional use will cause damage. I.e., the warning is likely just from the legal department.

I just don't get the "I got a secret" mentality.

[Forzanerazzurri]

Originally Posted by 8262S

Then why didn't you say that instead of a condescending reference to plenty of books to browse?

My owner's manual is in the glovebox, in the car, in Germany.

The question I posed was truly inquisitive, and your comment piqued my interest enough that I did some research and found the thread that I reference. There was dispute in that thread and the issue was left unresolved. Hence my question.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that driving a car hard causes more wear than normal driving. We are all trying to figure out where the line is between having fun with the car and breaking it.

I will use this as a point of reference, and continue to research the issue, but am not convinced that BMW thought the car was strong enough to include a launch control but that occasional use will cause damage. I.e., the warning is likely just from the legal department.

I just don't get the "I got a secret" mentality.

Fine let's leave it there. My manual is also in the glovebox in Germany. I hope you have a smooth and speedy delivery.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by antzcrashing

Wow, this car will have high insurance premiums for sure

Insurance premiums are determined by collision rate(s), cost, location where the vehicle is stored/registered (…e.g…theft rate(s)), etc…..not simply performance. Example: the insurance rate is/was cheaper on my Panigale V4 than it was on the cheaper [and lesser performing] 899/V2. Why? The cheaper bike is easier to attain and the collision rates were higher. My 992 C2S is a few dollars cheaper to insure despite being twice as expensive as my prior M4.

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by YamaLink

The 5 to 60 makes me wish a N/A V8 or supercharger or, GASP, an EV was part of my garage. Daily driving an EV can be fun for me, but driving an EV enthusiastically was a major letdown. Doubt I'll ever use launch control, and in today's world of cameras/videos/congested PUBLIC roads, does anyone but a criminal actually launch or drag race outside a 1/4 mile strip or deserted rural road? I didn't buy my M4 to be a EV beating topfuel dragster, but it's still nice to see the specs. I'm reminded why I bought the BMW each time I laugh when cornering and accelerating out of a sweeping bend. Also thinking if a much lighter car, even when not abused with LC, will feel faster on hard acceleration and have added perk of "funner" cornering. (that last sentence typed by Captain Obvious)
Guess these questions are all small parts of why we're drawn to the cars we own or spend too much time reading about/dreaming about.

I too found this to be a little disappointing. I have an M3 xDrive on order, but the order is taking so long that I keep rethinking it. I can't believe that there's only a tenth between this car's 5-60 and the M2C 6MT...and I've happily relearned my stick shift driving to feel pretty comfortable launching it...though I try not to for the sake of the clutch. I know the car is infinitely faster at speed, but I'm just wondering if I'll be bored too quickly.

[AKSteve]

Originally Posted by mjr24

Slower than the F90 M5....kind of surprised given the M4 is lighter.
I think C and D tested the M5 base at 2.6.....which is surprising because I thought I read somewhere the M5 Comp actually tested slower than that.....maybe 2.7.

What I want is to see CarWow do a race with an M4 Comp xDrive, an M5 Comp and an M8 Comp.

[Germanauto]

Impressive AF.

[yousefnjr]

Originally Posted by TFBravo

Yea C&D numbers are always crazy, you telling me a stock M4 is faster than a M5 in a 1/4mile. M5 could pull 11.0 on a prepped surface not an M4. And show me any video of M4/M3 doing anything less than 3.4.

We have a thread here of members running cars, many of them stock. Looks like the best on here is 3.14 to 60 and 11.1 @ 122 qtr

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...&postcount=204

[Limegrntaln]

Originally Posted by yousefnjr

We have a thread here of members running cars, many of them stock. Looks like the best on here is 3.14 to 60 and 11.1 @ 122 qtr

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...;postcount=204

Not sure why this one isn't on there.

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1846702

[Lokguru]

Can't wait for M3CS…

[bloozemanAZ]

Originally Posted by MCM4

Is it true that you can only use LC 30-50 times, and after that it launches slower? I read that somewhere on this website.

The number is actually 100 and then yes the gear shifts are slower.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by perryreid90

bUt ThE gRiLl

What do you think it is that makes go so fast? It's them giant nostrils, I tells ya 🤣🤣

[bloozemanAZ]

Originally Posted by 2011ninja

🥳

That's hilarious

Why it's a fact that 100 is the limit (not 50) and then the transmission shifts slower.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

I speculate that it sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. So provide some evidence of your claim, or my speculation will turn to certainty.

Why are you stalking me?

For what it's worth, to you both, have a chat to your service manager and ask why does BMW occasionally void the car warranty of a car where launch control has been used too often.

It's a revelation no one should miss out on

[bloozemanAZ]

Originally Posted by 8262S

I will use this as a point of reference, and continue to research the issue, but am not convinced that BMW thought the car was strong enough to include a launch control but that occasional use will cause damage. I.e., the warning is likely just from the legal department.

I just don't get the "I got a secret" mentality.

They do factor in the stress and limit LC to 100 times before the transmission slows down the shifts when in use.

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by AKSteve

What I want is to see CarWow do a race with an M4 Comp xDrive, an M5 Comp and an M8 Comp.

That's like asking to see a camel, an elephant, and a horse doing a race

These are radically different cars

[crypto]

Originally Posted by 8262S

Very interesting, thanks for posting that!

So Dragy times would not have this "roll-out" factored in?

And is your belief that the C&D time is a "roll-out" drag strip time?

Yes C&D times always have their adjusted number and they typically tell you as much in each post. However, they go a bit more into the weeds here;

https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...-we-test-cars/

"All of our standing-start acceleration times also include rollout, a short period of time (typically about 0.3 second) that we subtract from the acceleration figures. It's a phenomenon that stems from the physics of the timing lights at a drag strip, where a car can be rolling for 12 inches or more before the clock starts."

If their best run had a Dragy video to accompany — you'd likely see a .3 second slower time on it than what ends up in the magazine.

[B///MWGuy]

Am I the only one impressed by the performance/fuel economy ratio?

29mpg highway! At <3 second 0-60 is insane engineering feat.

[Limegrntaln]

Originally Posted by F8SEVEN

I too found this to be a little disappointing. I have an M3 xDrive on order, but the order is taking so long that I keep rethinking it. I can't believe that there's only a tenth between this car's 5-60 and the M2C 6MT...and I've happily relearned my stick shift driving to feel pretty comfortable launching it...though I try not to for the sake of the clutch. I know the car is infinitely faster at speed, but I'm just wondering if I'll be bored too quickly.

12.4 @ 116 versus 125 in the 1/4. Or even 122. 6-9mph in the 1/4 isn't even a contest. 12.4 to an 10.8 or even an 11.2, isn't even a contest.

[Teutonic]

Originally Posted by NightWriter

Most of them are trolls and/or jealous, and evoke the grille punchlines to self-sooth their envy.

…you are funny…

[AKSteve]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

That's like asking to see a camel, an elephant, and a horse doing a race

These are radically different cars

No, it's like taste testing 3 different types of oranges. They're the 3 main M cars and I think it would be a neat race. The Porsche 911 is a RADICALLY different car compared to an M3/4, but people compare them all of the time.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by F8SEVEN

I too found this to be a little disappointing. I have an M3 xDrive on order, but the order is taking so long that I keep rethinking it. I can't believe that there's only a tenth between this car's 5-60 and the M2C 6MT...and I've happily relearned my stick shift driving to feel pretty comfortable launching it...though I try not to for the sake of the clutch. I know the car is infinitely faster at speed, but I'm just wondering if I'll be bored too quickly.

The best way to not get bored is to not doing boring things with it. Take it to the track!