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      09-23-2019, 01:59 PM   #1651
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I want this big grille G80 to debut so the last few holdouts can get over it and we can move onto the other aspects of this car. The sooner, the better. I'm excited to see what the new interior and exterior colors actually look like.
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[IMG][/IMG] I mean come on, this looks 100 times better
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I know it won't be looking like this unfortunately
That front end looks worse.
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      09-23-2019, 02:08 PM   #1653
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I just need to see a pic that's all. Happy to wait if by some miracle the toned down production front end looks more attractive. If not my money goes elsewhere...
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I just need to see a pic that's all. Happy to wait if by some miracle the toned down production front end looks more attractive. If not my money goes elsewhere...
Where? Porsche? Many people claim they'll leave just as they did in the past, but not many actually left.
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      09-23-2019, 02:12 PM   #1655
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Where? Porsche?
Duh where else
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      09-23-2019, 02:13 PM   #1656
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Duh where else
Most who say - or have said - that haven't done it, just like those who claimed they'd move out of the country when/if Trump was elected didn't move. They're all still here.
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Where? Porsche? Many people claim they'll leave just as they did in the past, but not many actually left.
That because the actual cost of owning a Porsche isn't for the average joe.

You don't just drop off your car for service, you drop off your wallet with the car.
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That because the actual cost of owning a Porsche isn't for the average joe.

You don't just drop off your car for service, you drop off your wallet with the car.
I agree! That's why I chuckle when people claim that they'll leave the brand for the P-Car. The cost of ownership isn't for the faint of heart.
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      09-23-2019, 03:24 PM   #1659
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That because the actual cost of owning a Porsche isn't for the average joe.

You don't just drop off your car for service, you drop off your wallet with the car.
Could you please confirm your awareness of the fact that this thread is about BMW M cars and not Toyota Camrys?
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I agree! That's why I chuckle when people claim that they'll leave the brand for the P-Car. The cost of ownership isn't for the faint of heart.
I am jumping to a 2020 911 S because bmw haven't made an M3 available. I don't like this because I care about m3's practability. In any case I don't think cost of ownership is that high for a Porsche - considering they hold their values somewhat okay. Also I am purchasing a 5 year maintenance plan for $5k.
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      09-23-2019, 03:34 PM   #1661
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Could you please confirm your awareness of the fact that this thread is about BMW M cars and not Toyota Camrys?
true, out of warranty/service plan M cars aren't cheap either, BUT a lot of of people on here get new ones every 3-4 years or lease them, and when you lease new there is no maintenance cost (in US at least), while a comparable Porsche not only cost more but has no free maintenance and if you are leasing it you will probably feel pressured to have them service it so there are no issues at turn in time.
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true, out of warranty/service plan M cars aren't cheap either, BUT a lot of of people on here get new ones every 3-4 years or lease them, and when you lease new there is no maintenance cost (in US at least), while a comparable Porsche not only cost more but has no free maintenance and if you are leasing it you will probably feel pressured to have them service it so there are no issues at turn in time.
Careful, no talking about Camry's in this thread.

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I can handle this look... better than the two coffins!
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Anyone who is not sure of the big grille of the concept car can pretty much look elsewhere. Remember how the green M8 GC concept was out of world amazing for a 4 door, and how the production car compared to that?
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But will there be enough plastic available to mold the giant grills?
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Anyone who is not sure of the big grille of the concept car can pretty much look elsewhere. Remember how the green M8 GC concept was out of world amazing for a 4 door, and how the production car compared to that?
They definitely should look elsewhere if they cannot get on board with the new design, are hoping that the LCI will not have large grilles, etc. BMW has shown where their ambitions are headed. Believe them!
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When is SOP for the Hxx Gen M3?
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I can handle this look... better than the two coffins!
Horrible render.

Absolutely horrible.

///M front bumpers aren't shaped like that.
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When is SOP for the Hxx Gen M3?
2029!
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From what we know here in Europe, the new M3 will surely share the same ugly front grill with the 4er and M4.

Probably......the 3er LCI will share something similar too.

I really want to change my M140i with the new M3...but.....the grill is a huge question mark. Here in Europe feedbacks about the 4er concept grill are really, really bad...so I hope that maybe somebody in BMW will take care of the custmer bad reaction, and maybe, will reduce the size of it.

But, I repeat, for what we know.....the grill is at 90% what we'll have into the final production car.
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the 4 looks great, I think the M3 will look great. I think, if you feel the M3 and M4 have grills that are too big. A jump to the Porsche is acceptable. If you are leaning the other way. JDM may be just for you. NOS, VTEC and Mugen with a spoon engine shipped overnight from Japan.
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I can handle this look... better than the two coffins!
Horrible render.

Absolutely horrible.

///M front bumpers aren't shaped like that.
It kind of resembles the shape of the new RS7 front end.
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