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      06-26-2022, 11:27 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Mild Cosmetic Refresh & Engine Changes Coming For 3-Series in July 2024

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From recent update in the future models thread:

G20/G21: Some kind of a mild cosmetic refresh in 07/24.

At the same time, US engines will be brought in line with the new emissions requirements (next year we'll know if that will affect power output).

In EU, all diesel engines will be brought to EU7 compliance starting 03/25.
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From recent update in the future models thread:

G20/G21: Some kind of a mild cosmetic refresh in 07/24.

At the same time, US engines will be brought in line with the new emissions requirements (next year we'll know if that will affect power output).

In EU, all diesel engines will be brought to EU7 compliance starting 03/25.
In the US, does that mean 330i and M340i would get some beef ups?
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      06-27-2022, 05:09 PM   #3
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In the US, does that mean 330i and M340i would get some beef ups?[/QUOTE]



when has news like this ever meant "beef ups"


regulations=restrictions

compliance=reductions

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      06-27-2022, 05:14 PM   #4
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What are the chances power will go down?
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      06-27-2022, 05:49 PM   #5
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translation: M340i - 189HP BUT 75MPG because that's what we all really want deep down!!

PLEASE NOTE: THIS IS NOT FACTUAL
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I'd bet it's either a beefier hybrid system and/or a decrease in total combustion volume.
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2023 BMW M3  [10.00]
Cosmetic refresh in 2023 then another in 2024...
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      06-27-2022, 06:29 PM   #8
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All we can do is speculate.

I am thinking a B48 with an actual MH system that makes more sense and power. Or a detuned B58. The Gen 2 BMW MH.
https://www.bmwblog.com/2021/03/09/b...ing-with-2025/

Order them now my friends.
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      06-27-2022, 09:22 PM   #9
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power always goes up
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      06-27-2022, 09:45 PM   #10
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I'd give up some trunk space to fit the powertrain (with battery) from the 545e and give it a factory M Performance tune.

BMW M345e. B58+Electric Motor! Show Mercedes how to do a performance hybrid.
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      06-28-2022, 12:42 AM   #11
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Because the G80/82 has so much power they can go up and not worry too much . Give the M340i 450 HP 400 TQ
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      06-28-2022, 02:24 AM   #12
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Bring back the ETA engines? 330e/340e.
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It will likely go down.

For example: US X3 M40i = 382 bhp

Euro X3 M40i = 355 bhp

Down to emissions.
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Because the G80/82 has so much power they can go up and not worry too much . Give the M340i 450 HP 400 TQ
The base M3/M4 has 473 hp and 406 ft lbs... those figures are way too close for the M340i.
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There has been talk of the updated B58 engines making more power across the board so I wouldn't be shocked if the M performance version was in the range of 400 HP.

https://www.bmwblog.com/2022/02/27/2...70-horsepower/
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I'd love a mild-hybrid B58 with an an additional turbo. B58 emissions, S55 twin-power bi-turbo?
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I'd love a mild-hybrid B58 with an an additional turbo. B58 emissions, S55 twin-power bi-turbo?
Bu bu bu but What about the fake M badge??
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I'd love a mild-hybrid B58 with an an additional turbo. B58 emissions, S55 twin-power bi-turbo?
Bu bu bu but What about the fake M badge??
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Because the G80/82 has so much power they can go up and not worry too much . Give the M340i 450 HP 400 TQ
The base M3/M4 has 473 hp and 406 ft lbs... those figures are way too close for the M340i.
Aren't those basically the WHP numbers? Even if 450 the transmission is geared different than the M and it won't be as fast anyway. I bet the LCI M3/4 gets a bump too to compete with the C63's 600+ hp
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Bu bu bu but What about the fake M badge??
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it's not fake.
everybody gets to be whatever they want to be.

everybody who wants an M gets an M that's how it is and if you don't agree you're M-phobic.


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it's not fake.
everybody gets to be (called) whatever they want to be (called).

everybody who wants an M gets an M that's how it is and if you don't agree you're M-phobic.
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