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      08-09-2023, 08:21 PM   #1
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G8X ZF8… which do you use the the most? Drive, Paddles, Shifter?

G8X ZF8… which do you use the the most? Drive, Paddles, Shifter?

After decades of performance cars with manuals, I am very excited to drive the M3 Competition with the ZF8!

My status is “Order Received “, can’t wait! Week 40 build I understand.

Curious as to which mode of this performance automatic ZF8 you use the most and why?

Thanks!

Will be soon sending my well driven and cared for M2 Competition (heavily modified with OZ wheels and side reflector deletes, LOL) to a lucky new owner before collecting (to steal the cool British term for taking delivery of) my M3C!



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      08-09-2023, 08:27 PM   #2
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I drove manual trans cars my whole life and when I bought my E92 with DCT I thought I made a mistake. But I made the decision to drive with the paddles as much as possible - 95%+ of the time, and that affirmed that I made the right decision. In every successive M since, I have followed suit.
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Paddle shifters almost exclusively. An occasional tap of the gear selector if I know my shift to second will be awkward in a tight turn for the paddles. Its my weekend fun car so I drive it as such.
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D2 auto most of the time but my E46 M3 Is manual.
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G8X ZF8… which do you use the the most? Drive, Paddles, Shifter?

After decades of performance cars with manuals, I am very excited to drive the M3 Competition with the ZF8!

My status is “Order Received “, can’t wait! Week 40 build I understand.

Curious as to which mode of this performance automatic ZF8 you use the most and why?

Thanks!

Will be soon sending my well driven and cared for M2 Competition (heavily modified with OZ wheels and side reflector deletes, LOL) to a lucky new owner before collecting (to steal the cool British term for taking delivery of) my M3C!



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I always keep it in drive and comfort the first 10-15 minutes to warm the engine. After that it's sport plus and s3 and lets go

While the "manual mode" is and never will be as engaging as in my F82 or M2's DCT, it's still very good and I love to use the pedals. Especially now with the new exhaust.
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      08-10-2023, 05:30 AM   #6
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I leave it in auto 90% of the time now.
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      08-10-2023, 06:11 AM   #7
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Ha. When M Town came to my town a few weeks ago, I got to drive the M3 Competition and at the first stoplight, I tried to waggle the gear selector back and forth like like I do in my M2C manual going into neutral.

My 28 year old son, a BMW technician, was with me and we had a good laugh!

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Well, I have a bonus question now. I was watching (another) M3C review video! What do the transmission settings 1-2-3 change?

I understand the transmission shifts more quickly, right?

So does the transmission, when in Drive mode, hold the current gear longer and at higher RPMs (acceleration and deceleration) as you go up through settings 1-2-3?
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Well, I have a bonus question now. I was watching (another) M3C review video! What do the transmission settings 1-2-3 change?

I understand the transmission shifts more quickly, right?

So does the transmission, when in Drive mode, hold the current gear longer and at higher RPMs (acceleration and deceleration) as you go up through settings 1-2-3?
In D, 1-2-3 correspond to both how aggressive the shifts themselves are, and where the shift points themselves end up being. 1 is the most "comfort" level, quicker shifts (as in, lower RPMs), slower gear changes to give a more comfortable/as-fuel-efficient-as-possible ride. 3 is the opposite, fast, banging gears, holding RPMs as high as possible for optimal shifts. 2 is in between.

In S, it's how fast the gears actually change/aggressive the shifts are.
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Well, I have a bonus question now. I was watching (another) M3C review video! What do the transmission settings 1-2-3 change?

I understand the transmission shifts more quickly, right?

So does the transmission, when in Drive mode, hold the current gear longer and at higher RPMs (acceleration and deceleration) as you go up through settings 1-2-3?
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I drive in D1 for the first few minutes then switch to S3 and use the paddles all the time
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D1 when cruising and S3 with the paddles when on a twisty road.
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Downshift with paddle and upshift with shifter Im serious
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In D, 1-2-3 correspond to both how aggressive the shifts themselves are, and where the shift points themselves end up being. 1 is the most "comfort" level, quicker shifts (as in, lower RPMs), slower gear changes to give a more comfortable/as-fuel-efficient-as-possible ride. 3 is the opposite, fast, banging gears, holding RPMs as high as possible for optimal shifts. 2 is in between.

In S, it's how fast the gears actually change/aggressive the shifts are.
Question…..if D3 holds gears longer, etc, etc….what does Sport + engine mode actually do (besides opening more exhaust valves)? I guess my point is….what else is there to make the acceleration feel more “aggressive” beyond changing shift points and aggressiveness of shifts (which are both handled by putting it into D3)? It’s not like putting the engine into Sport + actually changes the hp.
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Drive and comfort until the oil has reached 90°C.

Then, if a winding road is underneath, preferably uphill, I allow myself either M1 (programmed D2 and brakes on Sport) or S2 with paddles.

The last one makes fun because here™ you have to be aware of a cyclist behind every curve, so you have much to do this way, and it makes fun changing speed and rpm with the paddles in these situation.
Not to mention the "kind" reactions oft he brave bicyclettistas when they feel being acoustically involved in my shifting efforts, LOL.
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Question…..if D3 holds gears longer, etc, etc….what does Sport + engine mode actually do (besides opening more exhaust valves)? I guess my point is….what else is there to make the acceleration feel more “aggressive” beyond changing shift points and aggressiveness of shifts (which are both handled by putting it into D3)? It’s not like putting the engine into Sport + actually changes the hp.
It increases the throttle response significantly.
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Question…..if D3 holds gears longer, etc, etc….what does Sport + engine mode actually do (besides opening more exhaust valves)? I guess my point is….what else is there to make the acceleration feel more “aggressive” beyond changing shift points and aggressiveness of shifts (which are both handled by putting it into D3)? It’s not like putting the engine into Sport + actually changes the hp.
Putting the engine into Sport or Sport+ will not result in more power. What it does is increase the responsiveness of the throttle. Pressure on the pedal results in more rapid acceleration.
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After I flashed to the CS trans file , no it stays on D1 90% of the time.
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S3, xhp stg3 nearly all the time. I don’t even back out of my garage in D shifting with both the paddles and the shifter, just depends on the situation. D mode is reserved for major traffic jams only.
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After owning a few Audi's I can't use the shifter to change gears in my M4CX.
It's the opposite direction and it messes me up. The paddles I'll use rarely, but 99% of my driving is D3 Sport+. I have wife/ passenger mode configured for M1 but it's rare I use it.
Up for down/down for up is objectively correct though, audi was doing it wrong :P
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D1 for the freeway / when warming up, D2 most of the time for city driving, S2 when I want some engagement. Paddles 80% of the time, 20% shifter when I don't feel like having both hands on the wheel
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